Notre Ame +3.5 at Sparty (ov/un 51.5) 8 ET ABC/ESPN2

[Oh8ch]

If I'm not mistaken, it was Dontonio's recruits that Kelly won with last year.

I wonder what the Cincy fans were thinking watching that game.

 

[Mike80]

When you have to point to LLLLLoyd Carr as a reference, you already have a losing argument. Not surprisingly, this comes from SEC-shill and Big Ten hater Matt Zemek...

First, there was the 2001 ?Clock Game? controversy, in which Michigan State was allowed an extra second it shouldn?t have enjoyed at the end of a home game against Michigan. Given the dubious extra tick on the clock, the Spartans and quarterback Jeff Smoker were able to score a last-play touchdown and edge the Wolverines, 26-24. The play rightly drew the ire of Michigan coach Lloyd Carr, whose petition to the Big Ten eventually reworked conference procedures so that the conference, and not the home team, got to appoint officials for each home game.

Saturday night, that policy didn?t do what it was supposed to do, and Notre Dame paid the price.

In this age of modern technology, we are blessed to have access to instant images which can help determine close calls on the field, and clearly, just before Mark Dantonio?s ballsy and brassy fake-field goal attempt on 4th and 14, the play clock hit double-zero. .

The problem isn?t so much that the on-field officials didn?t make the proper ruling; the real problem here is that the play wasn?t reviewed. One would do well to recall that some kinds of plays are still not subject to review in college football. This turn of events at Spartan Stadium ? yet another tainted ending in this ballpark over the past nine years ? must force college football?s relevant rules and competition committees to allow for the review of ALL PLAYS, not just some.

Will this sport eventually get the memo? No team deserves to be shafted after spilling the tank for four full quarters plus overtime. Notre Dame ? for all its inadequacies ? deserved due process at the end of this game, but didn?t get it. Somewhere, Lloyd Carr is fuming? alongside Irish fans who have a right to be angry.

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Yeah - he's really bitching about the play clock when the "regular" Ntre Ame defense couldn't stop a FG fake that it had to be looking for.....pathetic...

 

[NFBuck]

The games in the 90's were great. I went to the game in South Bend and I sold my ticket for $800. I got into the game free by posing s a Red Coat.

Notre Dame had good teams then.

Ntre ame hasn't been a player on the national scene since 1993. The teams the Buckeyes murdered were solid Top-25 teams, but not elite by any means. That's not to say it didn't feel great, just that this program has been pretty mediocre since 1993.

 

[A Pac]

That call took all the balls in the world to call and I give Dantoni app the credit in the world for calling it. I won't complain about the non-delay of game call because ND should have scored more in the first half. MSU was the better team and deserved to win. What does suck though, is that the Irish are 2 or 3 plays away from being 3-0 instead of 1-2.

 

[JBaney45]

When you have to point to LLLLLoyd Carr as a reference, you already have a losing argument. Not surprisingly, this comes from SEC-shill and Big Ten hater Matt Zemek...



http://cfn.scout.com/2/1003758.html



Yeah - he's really bitching about the play clock when the "regular" Ntre Ame defense couldn't stop a FG fake that it had to be looking for.....pathetic...

Pretty sure the OFFICIAL time is kept on the field by one of the officials not on TV or on the stadium playclock

 

[CHU]

I just realized that Charles Barkley's Lock of the Weekend (Michigan State over the Irish) actually won (made on the Dan Patrick Show Friday).

 

[GbByChubsy]

I played under D-man when he was at Ohio state...his kids went to my middle school and he coach the D as a volunteer. Not gonna lie, not really suprised one bit by the call. He was always a guy where he never pubically showed it, but he always had a bigger plan to everything going in his mind and when he would execute it later in the game or practice or say do this and it would work like a charm everyone would just be like "yeah D-town just completely owned them"

I would also like to point that post out by the ND fan, it is completely true, ND is Literally 3 plays at the most away from being 3-0 against two SOLID BIG TEN NONETHELESS opponents, and include the win against Purdont, that is 3-0 VS Big Ten country....and people say ND wouldnt win in the Big Ten.

 

[muffler dragon]

I would also like to point that post out by the ND fan, it is completely true, ND is Literally 3 plays at the most away from being 3-0 against two SOLID BIG TEN NONETHELESS opponents, and include the win against Purdont, that is 3-0 VS Big Ten country....and people say ND wouldnt win in the Big Ten.

You've got to be joking. What's your definition of "SOLID"? Furthermore, the only one of the three that I see being above .500 or so in Big Ten play is MSU. Essentially, ND would be a middling team and nothing more.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

I would also like to point that post out by the ND fan, it is completely true, ND is Literally 3 plays at the most away from being 3-0 against two SOLID BIG TEN NONETHELESS opponents, and include the win against Purdont, that is 3-0 VS Big Ten country....and people say ND wouldnt win in the Big Ten.

Yeah, and I'm about 20 years of age and several millions dollars short of fucking Jessica Alba...

 

[ulukinatme]

That call took all the balls in the world to call and I give Dantoni app the credit in the world for calling it. I won't complain about the non-delay of game call because ND should have scored more in the first half. MSU was the better team and deserved to win. What does suck though, is that the Irish are 2 or 3 plays away from being 3-0 instead of 1-2.

This is exactly how I feel. Dantonio got the better of Kelly, I was shocked to see the fake there. I've not seen a gutsier call pay off in some time, damned if the call doesn't work, and legendary finish if you pull it off. I missed the possible delay of game on the play, but it matters not. The chances the outcome would have been any different are low if they move it back 5 yards I imagine. I'm glad that this young squad is competing, but they need to learn how to win. I'd like to see them play complete football like they did at Purdue. Since Purdue the offense has improved (When Dayne's in anyway), but the defense looks to have taken a step back.

 

[NFBuck]

I would also like to point that post out by the ND fan, it is completely true, ND is Literally 3 plays at the most away from being 3-0 against two SOLID BIG TEN NONETHELESS opponents, and include the win against Purdont, that is 3-0 VS Big Ten country....and people say ND wouldnt win in the Big Ten.

UM, what? I can barely understand what you're saying here, but I think you're saying Ntre ame could win the B10. That is, uh, how you say...crazy. The "we're three plays from being undefeated" argument is garbage because you can flip it and say they're about three plays from being 0-3. Yes, they should have (and probably would have) beat scUM if Crist played the whole game, but from what scUM has shown this year, despite their record, they're not that good. If Ntre ame was in the B10, they're a middle-of-the-pack team at best. Purdue is mediocre at best, scUM is scUM and MSU is a rivalry game that is always close. They could not hanfg with tOSU, Wiscy or probably even Iowa and Penn State. They are exactly what their record says they are...a 1-2 team. They'll have to scratch and scrape to get bowl eligible and from what they've shown so far, still need a lot of help on defense because, my God, they are sloooooooooow.

 

[Mike80]

Ntre Ame is 3 plays away from being undefeated?

Yeah and Ohio State is 6 plays away from not being scored upon

 

[cjmik_75]

I played under D-man when he was at Ohio state...his kids went to my middle school and he coach the D as a volunteer. Not gonna lie, not really suprised one bit by the call. He was always a guy where he never pubically showed it, but he always had a bigger plan to everything going in his mind and when he would execute it later in the game or practice or say do this and it would work like a charm everyone would just be like "yeah D-town just completely owned them"

I would also like to point that post out by the ND fan, it is completely true, ND is Literally 3 plays at the most away from being 3-0 against two SOLID BIG TEN NONETHELESS opponents, and include the win against Purdont, that is 3-0 VS Big Ten country....and people say ND wouldnt win in the Big Ten.

woulda. coulda. shoulda. if. and. or. but.

 

[Gatorubet]

That call took all the balls in the world to call and I give Dantoni app the credit in the world for calling it. I won't complain about the non-delay of game call because ND should have scored more in the first half. MSU was the better team and deserved to win. What does suck though, is that the Irish are 2 or 3 plays away from being 3-0 instead of 1-2.

Or 53 plays away from not losing 9 bowls in a row.

 

[matcar]

Or 53 plays away from not losing 9 bowls in a row.

Exactly. ND is still a middling team that would be middle of the pack in any BCS conference. I think Kelly can change that over time, but that's what they are.