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CentralMOBuck
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I think not having Kevin Youkilis is going to really hurt this team.
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Jaxbuck;1433096; said:
3HR/3RBI
He don't do shit with runners on base!!!!1!
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Jaxbuck;1433096; said:
Didn't say he didn't deserve to be on the team, I'd rather have other guys in the 4 hole...
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AKAKBUCK;1433299; said:
I have often thought Dunn's best lineup spot is second. His OBP/power combo make him lethal in that spot. That however takes a little outside the box thinking from the traditional school of lineup construction almost every MLB manager still uses(SS/CF must bat first etc).
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JCOSU86;1433529; said:Yeah, right, like chicks know about this kind of thing
We have to act like we know a little about it to pick up ball players at the bars.
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Jaxbuck;1433335; said:
Depends how you like to look at things.
Current WBC numbers aside... he strikes out too much to be a 1-4.
However.
And this is a big however...
I like him a lot if he's a 5 and hits opposite side from your 4.... (Or even a 6 if you have a good contact hitter behind him... if your 5 is turned around)
Anyway... he's a good player, I never meant to imply that... but.. what he is, is the ultimate guy to hit behind your OPS guys....
In a way, your 2 idea could go to the extreme and let him lead off... he'd probably walk a lot in that case... and... I kind of hate the "Just put a fast guy at the top of the order" concept too... especially if your 3rd or 4th best OBP guy has no speed... too bad...
I see your point at 2... he'll see pitches, and, as such get big bang out of them.... and depending on the make-up of your line-up it might make sense.
On the other hand... put him at the ass end of 5 gusy who already hit .285... and... the "break" will be Dunn.... yeah, no one wants to pitch around all those dudes to get to a guy who can hit it to the moon.
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AKAKBUCK;1433741; said:
It's for another thread but I'm one who looks at OBP, not BA. Also, I don't really care about the K's. I wish he didn't but the fact is he is going to be one of the best guys on any team at not making outs. Not making outs is the #1 job of a hitter.
If I had a beastly #3 RH hitter you can bet I'd put Dunn 2nd for a while and watch what happens. I said for years the Reds should lead him off because they didn't have anyone that stole bases anyway, why not have the best OBP guy lead off?
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David Wright's decision to play hurt irks NewYork Mets manager Jerry Manuel - ESPN
Day by day, game by game, article by article, I am becoming a bigger and bigger fan of David Wright. Why can't all the US players in MLB have his same love and passion for the not only the game of Baseball that's treated him so well, but his country as well.
Day by day, game by game, article by article, I am becoming a bigger and bigger fan of David Wright. Why can't all the US players in MLB have his same love and passion for the not only the game of Baseball that's treated him so well, but his country as well.
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Nutriaitch
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Jaxbuck;1433785; said:
not me.
if a guy goes into a game with a dead even .300 BA, and dead even .300 OPB, then goes to plate 3 times, and gets 3 SF and 3 RBI.
his batting average is still .300, but his OBP drops, even though he was "successful" all 3 plate appearances.
same if he gets on by virue of an error or fielders choice. OBP goes up, even though he did nothing to justify it, yet his BA drops (as it should).
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Nutriaitch;1434300; said:
Sacrifices are not plate appearances for the purposes of OBP, and errors and FC's do not count as a time on base.
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Nutriaitch;1434300; said:
If you are of the opinion that BA is a better indicator of offensive performance then you are also of the opinion that a single is the same as a double, triple or homerun.
Batting Average (AVG): Divide the number of base hits by the total number of at bats.
On-Base Percentage (OBP): Divide the total number of hits plus Bases on Balls plus hits by Pitch BY at Bats plus Bases on Balls plus hit by Pitch plus Sacrifice Flies
Slugging Percentage (SLG): Divide the total number of bases of all base hits by the total number of times at bat
The number one job of a hitter is to not make an out. OBP is the best measurement of how well a hitter does this.
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AKAKBUCK;1434301; said:
It does count as a plate appearance for game and/or batting champion purposes. Remember a couple years ago when Barroid Bonds was walked an MLB record number of times, had it not been for the fact that just taking a pitch makes it a plate appearance meant he could qualify for the BA title.
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