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No 3-Peat...Finally, Someone in the Media Gets It

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buckeyegrad

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I know several of us have already stated such around here, but it is nice to see someone in the media finally get this.

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The surest bet of college football's annual overload of wild and woolly bowl action is simple, Southern California will not capture a third consecutive national championship, no matter what everyone keeps saying.

Oh, the Trojans may defeat Texas in January's Rose Bowl, host site for this season's Bowl Championship Series title game, but only hype or revisionist history says it would mean a three-peat for SC.

A second title? Sure. Pete Carroll's team whipped Oklahoma last year in the title game to win it all. Do it again and you get back-to-back.

But that certainly isn't three, because the year before it was LSU coach Nick Saban (not Carroll) who hoisted that ugly glass football that goes to the "champion" of the national system that each Division I-A football program (USC included) agrees each season to play under.
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This is stupid...i'm not a big fan of USC by any means...but they were #1 in 2003. No doubt. #1 in both polls. The BCS is messed up, and screwed them out of a national title. Sure...that's the rules that the coach's poll and the BCS live by...but I still consider them to be as much of National Champions as LSU was.

It just shows the need for a playoff...that's all. You can debate forever on who would have won if LSU played USC in 2003. Nobody knows for certain. Same thing with Auburn and USC last year. The system is flawed...

But for those of you who say AP is just a popularity poll, that wasn't the case for USC in 2003. Almost everybody had USC as #1, except for the BCS. USC being left out of the championship game in 2003 was the worst mistake the BCS formula has ever made.

USC is good...really good. And if they beat a really good Texas team...then I think they will have become the biggest dynasty in CFB history.
 
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No if USC wins the Rose Bowl the media will credit them with 5 national titles. Everyone should expect that. 3 AP titles(2003-2004, 2004-2005, 2005-2006) and 2 BCS titles(2004-2005, 2005-2006). You see, in their mind, USC would have won 5 trophies, meaning they won the national championship 5 times in 3 years. It probably sounds stupid, but don't put the media off on this, they'll probably do it.
 
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I'm not a BCS basher. I don't mind the system.

The only reason that anyone considers USC a 2003 champ is because with just a few weeks left, the media took up their cause and made them their #1.

They were good. But the system they play under (the system they agreed to) left them out of the national title game. You can't win the title if you aren't playing in the title game. Period.
 
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JonathanXC said:
This is stupid...i'm not a big fan of USC by any means...but they were #1 in 2003. No doubt. #1 in both polls. The BCS is messed up, and screwed them out of a national title. Sure...that's the rules that the coach's poll and the BCS live by...but I still consider them to be as much of National Champions as LSU was.

It just shows the need for a playoff...that's all. You can debate forever on who would have won if LSU played USC in 2003. Nobody knows for certain. Same thing with Auburn and USC last year. The system is flawed...

But for those of you who say AP is just a popularity poll, that wasn't the case for USC in 2003. Almost everybody had USC as #1, except for the BCS. USC being left out of the championship game in 2003 was the worst mistake the BCS formula has ever made.

USC is good...really good. And if they beat a really good Texas team...then I think they will have become the biggest dynasty in CFB history.
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yep my thoughts exactly
 
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scooter1369 said:
I'm not a BCS basher. I don't mind the system.

The only reason that anyone considers USC a 2003 champ is because with just a few weeks left, the media took up their cause and made them their #1.

They were good. But the system they play under (the system they agreed to) left them out of the national title game. You can't win the title if you aren't playing in the title game. Period.
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Exactly. The BCS formula at the time was superior to the AP poll because it took strength of schedule into account. Now that they've changed the formula so that there is no strength of schedule component and the polls are 2/3 of the BCS ranking, it is inferior. You might as well just go back to the old days when it was just a popularity contest. Teams like USC should be penalized for having a cupcake schedule. LSU was the true champion in 2003.
 
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