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NFL Replacement refs...What if?

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I never realized the "real" refs were so incredibly awesome until now, at least based on the reaction I've seen in many media and message boards leading up to the season. :roll1:

The new refs were fine last night, not perfect, and they'll get better. Guess what, the "real" ones aren't perfect either. People bitched about them every week. If they don't want to work 20 days a year for $180,000, fuck 'em.
 
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ment-ref-said-i-need-you-for-my-fantasy-team/

As the storm rages regarding the replacement officials and the NFL wagons continue to circle tightly, Eagles running back LeSean McCoy has pried open the latest can of worms in this never ending conundrum.

McCoy told 94WIP in Philly that, during Sunday?s win over the Ravens, a replacement official told McCoy, ?I need you for my fantasy team.?

While it?s possible that it was said in jest, it?s the latest stain on the overall credibility and integrity of the replacement officials. From the official who is a professional poker player to the official who was pulled from the Saints-Panthers game for being a rabid Saints fan (and posting about it on Facebook) to the official in the Seahawks-Cardinals game who had been getting paid by the Seahawks to officiate at practices, to the influence of fantasy football, the short-time replacements with no year-to-year interest in keeping their jobs are far more likely to be influenced by non-football factors than the locked-out officials.

That?s why the NFL should be concerned that one of the replacement officials (or maybe more) are working with organized crime. If the NFL?s vetting failed to catch fairly obvious issues, what about the problems that someone actually took the time and effort to conceal?
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This guy makes an interesting point:

If you understand human nature ? and coaches understand human nature better than most people ? you understand why replacement referees are struggling.
The No. 1 goal for a replacement ref is to get out of the game without being the story. This is the top priority because the replacement refs are not stupid. You have broadcasters and journalists who wouldn?t dare say a negative word about a coach, player or executive taking potshots at the disposable refs. This is an unprecedented, no-risk chance to talk tough. The replacement refs are under unbelievable public scrutiny.
Coaches know this. They?re instructing players to disregard the rules. If the replacement refs flagged everything they?re seeing, the games would come to a complete halt and the refs would be blamed. A crew that flagged everything would toss 30 to 40 flags per game. It would set off a stadium riot, and everyone would blame the replacement refs.
NFL stadiums on game days are highways with no cops. Everybody is going 20 mph over the speed limit.
Rather than vilify the replacement refs, you should feel sorry for them. They?re substitute teachers working in a school in which the parents (coaches) are telling the students to break the rules.
What can be done beyond ending the strike? Nothing.

Entire article: http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/...-is-george-w-bush-and-other-nfl-truths-091812
 
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Bucky32;2216780; said:
I'm very interested to see who blinks first. Although, as long as millions continue to tune in to these games (which will happen), maybe the NFL doesn't give a rip about its on-field product.
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I see/hear comments like this a lot, lately. It sounds like the suggestion is the NFL should give the "real" refs whatever the hell they want, no matter how unreasonable. That's an absurd position. It takes two sides to reach a CBA.

Whle the replacement refs have been far from perfect they are being held to a higher standard by fans and media than their predecessors. Every call is scrutinized to the level where the fucking world is going to end if it isn't exactly right. That's also an absurd position.

There are far bigger issues than a bunch of well to do officials trying to squeeze even more money out of a very high paying part time job officiating football games.
 
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Jake;2217708; said:
Whle the replacement refs have been far from perfect they are being held to a higher standard by fans and media than their predecessors. Every call is scrutinized to the level where the fucking world is going to end if it isn't exactly right. That's also an absurd position.
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I absolutely agree. Some of the procedural stuff is entirely unacceptable, but the criticism of the judgement calls has been laughable. It's not the like the regular officials aren't equally as inconsistent in their enforcement of the rules.
 
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Imagine if you will, being a worker in a similar but different factory, office or task,,,,,everything goes at a much faster pace......everything you do is on video and dissected by every expert who then has access to every media...and then add the human resource is going to be unhappy with a lot of what you do.

So what do we expect? The human element will always be imperfect. Even when you use technology as in slow mo-video replay the answer is not always clear.

I guess we just have to suck it up and live with it........I guess I lost my head for a moment.
 
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cincibuck;2220493; said:
And now you know the rest of the story... on top of that they're so inept that the TV schedules are thrown off. Each game is taking another 30 to 40 minutes.
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Some of the extra time taken in these games could be credited to close plays near the goal line which required review.
 
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TooTallMenardo;2220533; said:
Some of the extra time taken in these games could be credited to close plays near the goal line which required review.
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Except that those same close plays near the goal line occurred before the lock-out and required review then too. That doesn't account for the ineptness of these guys. Case in point, Eagles - Cards. Cards get first down, after the play there's a personal foul call on the Cards. NOW, that means you give them the 1st down because the foul happened after the ball was blown dead, then you move the ball back fifteen and it's first and 25. The ref spots the ball and calls it third and twenty-five. Card's coach blows top. Another five minutes go by while the refs go to the super ref on the sidelines and get coached up. Ball re-spotted, 1st and 25. Next play the Eagles get a sack and there's a hold on the Cards. The Eagles want to take the sack, making it 2nd and forever, refs mumble with each other, call it first and forever, both sides talk to the Super ref. There's no way in hell the Eagles don't have the option here - the down and the loss both count, but it ends up with the Eagles having to accept the penalty, making it first, instead of second down. On third down Fitzgerald damn near makes a forty yard play and it ends up being 4th and 2. The Cards should have been forced to punt from their own twenty, end up punting from their own 45.

You don't see that kind of lack of rules knowledge in high school games.
 
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Bengals-Redskins game...about 1:00 left, washington player gets tackled inbounds and also gets injured

that's a :10 runoff since it's under 2:00, they announced it , but then it never happened....the announcers didn't help by explaining what happened either, but I dunno wtf happened, either way, Wash got a free :10
 
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