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Jake said:
I think Belichik's plan is to follow Brady out the door at the retirement press conference. It would be mine.
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I wonder if he wont be motivated to win one after Brady. Who was riding whose coattails?

NJ-Buckeye said:
Interesting reads checking out analysts view of Browns picks.. PRE DRAFT

Some had Greedy in mid to late Round 1
Some had Mack Wilson as top 5-10 Round 2
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They had some great value picks... and some real head scratchers... and some more questionable character.
 
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So, let me get this straight....

Devine Ozigbo rushes for over 1,000 yards, 12 TDs, averaging 7 yards a carry...

Stanley Morgan catches 131 balls, 17 TDs, and almost 2,000 yards on back to back 4-8 teams...

And the 32 teams in the NFL didn't draft EITHER player?

There's no way on this God's green earth that is possible without some Mile Riley love...
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alexhortdog95 said:
So, let me get this straight....

Devine Ozigbo rushes for over 1,000 yards, 12 TDs, averaging 7 yards a carry...

Stanley Morgan catches 131 balls, 17 TDs, and almost 2,000 yards on back to back 4-8 teams...

And the 32 teams in the NFL didn't draft EITHER player?

There's no way on this God's green earth that is possible without some Mile Riley love...
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See the CU kid from last year.
Combine mania is a thing...
There's no doubt who the best QB was last year.... didnt stop 2 incompetent front offices from playing themselves.
 
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JCOSU86 said:
I'll give you JFF - but the jury was out on Kiser. At 1 point, he was touted as the possible overall @1 pick. Yes, he faded, but I think his fall on draft day was sort of unexpected.
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https://www.onefootdown.com/2017/4/...st-aaron-rodgers-brady-quinn-myles-jack-irish

Of those, 50 — or 64 percent — believe the 6-foot-4, 235 pound quarterback won’t be picked in the first round.


There's also a giant difference between gambling on a risky pick in the mid-2nd round and the first, particularly when said gamble is your hope to transform the franchise.
 
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JCOSU86 said:
I'll give you JFF - but the jury was out on Kiser. At 1 point, he was touted as the possible overall @1 pick. Yes, he faded, but I think his fall on draft day was sort of unexpected.
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It was a few drafts ago but I certainly don’t remember Kizer being in any discussions for number one overall. His own coach wouldn’t give him any glowing recommendations. If Kizer was ever mentioned as a possible number one, it was while he was still in school and it was at least a season before he could have even entered the draft. If it existed, that talk quickly died down.

And at the risk of tooting my own horn, I hated the pick as soon as they made it. So I lump Kizer in with JFF. He was never going to be a steal. Waste and bust are the words I thought, the very same day he was taken. No NFL games required for those labels.
 
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CFPBuckeye said:
It was a few drafts ago but I certainly don’t remember Kizer being in any discussions for number one overall. His own coach wouldn’t give him any glowing recommendations. If Kizer was ever mentioned as a possible number one, it was while he was still in school and it was at least a season before he could have even entered the draft. If it existed, that talk quickly died down.

And at the risk of tooting my own horn, I hated the pick as soon as they made it. So I lump Kizer in with JFF. He was never going to be a steal. Waste and bust are the words I thought, the very same day he was taken. No NFL games required for those labels.
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I think there was some hype before his final season, similar to that given to Patterson. Then the real analysis began and they realized that was way off.
 
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CFPBuckeye said:
It was a few drafts ago but I certainly don’t remember Kizer being in any discussions for number one overall. His own coach wouldn’t give him any glowing recommendations. If Kizer was ever mentioned as a possible number one, it was while he was still in school and it was at least a season before he could have even entered the draft. If it existed, that talk quickly died down.

And at the risk of tooting my own horn, I hated the pick as soon as they made it. So I lump Kizer in with JFF. He was never going to be a steal. Waste and bust are the words I thought, the very same day he was taken. No NFL games required for those labels.
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I'm not defending Kizer at all, but to lump him in with the train wreck that is JFF is unfair. The people I would put in the same catagory as Billy would be Jamarcus Russell, Lawrence Phillips and Chad Kelly. They were horrible AND has serious off-field problems. I don't think Kizer did unless I'm forgetting something.
 
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jwinslow said:
https://www.onefootdown.com/2017/4/...st-aaron-rodgers-brady-quinn-myles-jack-irish

Of those, 50 — or 64 percent — believe the 6-foot-4, 235 pound quarterback won’t be picked in the first round.


There's also a giant difference between gambling on a risky pick in the mid-2nd round and the first, particularly when said gamble is your hope to transform the franchise.
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From the article:

“DeShone Kizer was the easy winner with nine votes,” wrote Bob McGinn, the NFL beat writer for the newspaper. “Patrick Mahomes drew two votes, Mitch Trubisky and Deshaun Watson each had one and one scout declined comment. Two of the executives indicated all five were equally risky.”

Hard to take an article seriously with those predictions.
 
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JCOSU86 said:
From the article:

“DeShone Kizer was the easy winner with nine votes,” wrote Bob McGinn, the NFL beat writer for the newspaper. “Patrick Mahomes drew two votes, Mitch Trubisky and Deshaun Watson each had one and one scout declined comment. Two of the executives indicated all five were equally risky.”

Hard to take an article seriously with those predictions.
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The article was summarizing that many didn't have him in the first.

Kizer had some hype but it was the year out hype before his money year and main draft tape for the draft, like when Grier was a top 5 pick (he went in the 3rd round).
 
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JCOSU86 said:
I'm not defending Kizer at all, but to lump him in with the train wreck that is JFF is unfair. The people I would put in the same catagory as Billy would be Jamarcus Russell, Lawrence Phillips and Chad Kelly. They were horrible AND has serious off-field problems. I don't think Kizer did unless I'm forgetting something.
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Lumping him in mentally along with work ethic and how he would translate. He just wasn’t going to make it the way he was. Didn’t want to work hard. Plenty of people who don’t want to work hard aren’t trainwrecks, they also aren’t successful and aren’t worthy of wasting picks on. The ones that do waste the pick, pick a bust.
 
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