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Live look at the New York Giants

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To Quon's credit, he's being an Oline that can't get him consistent yardage. So when he does tear one off, it's either on a blown gap or all him.

Kid had 1,300 yards his rookie season and was quite efficient then. The Gmen oline has been a dumpster fire since.
 
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Buckeneye said:
To Quon's credit, he's being an Oline that can't get him consistent yardage. So when he does tear one off, it's either on a blown gap or all him.

Kid had 1,300 yards his rookie season and was quite efficient then. The Gmen oline has been a dumpster fire since.
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I'm not sure if you mean he wasn't boom or bust when you say efficient....so I'm sorry if I misinterpreted. But I had this conversation with a PSU homer a year or so ago.....and I love shitting on this kid, so here goes again. Here are his yardages from each game of his rookie year, along with his longest rush of the game (Avg w/o is average yards per carry without the longest run):

Team-|Car-|Yards-|Long-|Avg-|Avg w/o|
-----|----|------|-----|----|-------|
DAL..|..17|...109|...68|.6.4|....2.6|
IND..|..21|....43|....6|.2.0|....1.9|
TEN..|..14|....31|...17|.2.2|....1.1|
WSH..|..14|...170|...78|12.1|....6.5|*
CHI..|..24|...125|...29|.5.2|....4.2|
PHI..|..13|...101|...51|.7.8|....4.2|
TB...|..27|...142|...23|.5.3|....4.6|
SF...|..20|....67|...18|.3.4|....2.6|
WSH..|..13|....38|....9|.2.9|....2.4|
ATL..|..14|....43|...15|.3.1|....2.2|
PHI..|..13|...130|...50|10.0|....6.7|**
CAR..|..15|....48|...30|.3.2|....1.3|
NO...|..10|....44|...28|.4.4|....1.8|
HOU..|..17|....82|...24|.4.8|....3.6|
DAL..|..11|....28|...10|.2.5|....1.8|
JAX..|18..|...106|...68|.5.9|....2.2|

* - Also had a rush of 52...so 40 yards on 12 carries, and 130 on 2
** - Also had a rush of 46...so 34 yards on 11 carries, and 96 on 2

Obviously, he's crazy talented. You don't routinely bust off 50+ yard plays in the NFL if you suck. But he has always been this kind of RB. It's either a huge play, or almost nothing. Taking these stats + watching him a couple times...my theory is that he tries too hard to hit those home runs, and often gets caught in the backfield. I looked at the play-by-play for the Washington and Philly games, and saw a good handful of negative rushes to go along with those 4 chunk plays. My only interest in him in the NFL is as a fantasy asset.....so my view is slanted. But I'm not looking for a RB dependent on huge runs to be successful.

edit - And I want to acknowledge that if you take away the best runs of any player, of course the stats look worse. I just think Saquon is extra dependent on his long runs, moreso than the average player.
 
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Damn, I don't want to put him anywhere near Barry's name but Sanders had a similar type of NFL career. He'd get stuffed or negative yardage 5 out of 6 times but that 6th carry would be magic. I guess as long as you hit that 6th run for something you might take it. Of course if those other runs are stuffed when you need to keep a drive going, it kinda fucks ya
 
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