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NFC Championship Game: Vikings at Saints(-4.5)

billmac91;1648983; said:
No, not at all. So a receiver that attempts to catch a ball, but juggles it, has complete control of the ball if he comes down with it?? Pierre jumps over the pile, gets hit with a helmet, loses control of the ball, the ball moves to his midsection where he regainsc ontrol, and then gets taken to the ground. That is where the ball should have been spotted.

Dude, you need to get your eyes checked. He didn't "juggle" the ball...juggling requires that the object being juggled be out of contact of the hands at one (or more) point(s). The ball was pushed down Thomas somewhat but was still in his grasp. Bottom line, he maintained possession throughout, and had the ball past the line to gain before the ball was even pushed back. On that call, Minnesota didn't get shafted. Now, the subsequent "catch" and the ticky-tack PI call, I can definitely see Vikings fans having a legit gripe about those.
 
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I"m typically a consipiracy type of guy myself when it comes to the bigger picture of sports....but I was watching this game not really caring who won. I was just admiring a fairly well played game that was going to end in one of two ways: 1) Brett Favre gets his chance to go out on top or 2) New Orleans completes the ceremonial return from Katrina by going to its first ever Super Bowl.


Well, have way through the 3rd quarter I began to get the distinct impression that the NFL wanted to find any way it could to get New Orleans in the Super Bowl. It seemed...not calculated...that NO got nearly all the calls and certainly nearly all of the breaks.

Minnesota is a much better team than New Orleans. But they played much worse yesterday.
 
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DaveyBoy;1649135; said:
I"m typically a consipiracy type of guy myself when it comes to the bigger picture of sports....but I was watching this game not really caring who won. I was just admiring a fairly well played game that was going to end in one of two ways: 1) Brett Favre gets his chance to go out on top or 2) New Orleans completes the ceremonial return from Katrina by going to its first ever Super Bowl.


Well, have way through the 3rd quarter I began to get the distinct impression that the NFL wanted to find any way it could to get New Orleans in the Super Bowl. It seemed...not calculated...that NO got nearly all the calls and certainly nearly all of the breaks.

Minnesota is a much better team than New Orleans. But they played much worse yesterday.

I really appreciated how Roger Goodell got the Vikings to turn the ball over so many times. David Stern only wishes he could fix games in such a manner.

FWIW, recovery from Katrina is not the story they're going to be pushing on us the next two weeks. It's gonna be Peyton Manning vs. his daddy's team.
 
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DaveyBoy;1649135; said:
It seemed...not calculated...that NO got nearly all the calls and certainly nearly all of the breaks.

Minnesota is a much better team than New Orleans. But they played much worse yesterday.

And yet Favre still managed to throw the game away. The Vikings had the game won had Favre ran for ~5 yds and taken a safe slide. Granted, no FG is ever a given, but I have a feeling that if he doesn't throw that INT, the Vikings punch their ticket.

As soon as he threw the pick, I told my wife it was sad to see Favre's last pass in the NFL be such a fundemental mistake (not so surprising though, given his history). Aikmen said something like, "that's the first thing you learn as a QB, not to make that throw". Sad to see Favre throw the SB away, but on the other hand, at least we're spared two weeks of The Legend of Brett Favre coverage.

:p
 
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DaveyBoy;1649135; said:
I"m typically a consipiracy type of guy myself when it comes to the bigger picture of sports....but I was watching this game not really caring who won. I was just admiring a fairly well played game that was going to end in one of two ways: 1) Brett Favre gets his chance to go out on top or 2) New Orleans completes the ceremonial return from Katrina by going to its first ever Super Bowl.


Well, have way through the 3rd quarter I began to get the distinct impression that the NFL wanted to find any way it could to get New Orleans in the Super Bowl. It seemed...not calculated...that NO got nearly all the calls and certainly nearly all of the breaks.

Minnesota is a much better team than New Orleans. But they played much worse yesterday.

Yeah I can't see the NFL having any interest in ESPN's favorite player making the Super Bowl...with a rival team...at all...I mean there never would have been any 2 week Brett Favre media spoogefest had the Vikings won or anything...
 
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The flipside is Favre has 1 more year at most imo, whereas Brees has finally emerged as the top-3 QB he's been for awhile. Brees is a more marketable commodity down the road than Favre, imo.
 
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THe lovefest for the resurrected New Orleans will start to rear its end....against the backdrop of a decimated Port-au-Prince, Haiti.

The NFL was bound to win either way with the Saints or the Favre-led Vikings. But the calls they made that favored the Saints were atrocious. Put it this way, had the college rule for using instant replay been in effect (and thank goodness it's not), New Orleans would have had at least one touchdown taken away.

The Saints needed the refs to help them beat the Vikings even with those turnovers. The Vikings are easily a 10 to 14 point better team than the Saints if they faced off in a neutral venue. The Saints will get beaten by 20+ points by the Colts. They are simply not a great team. The Saints played their A game last night while Minnesota played its C game and it still went into overtime with the help of the refs.
 
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DaveyBoy;1649135; said:
I"m typically a consipiracy type of guy myself when it comes to the bigger picture of sports....but I was watching this game not really caring who won. I was just admiring a fairly well played game that was going to end in one of two ways: 1) Brett Favre gets his chance to go out on top or 2) New Orleans completes the ceremonial return from Katrina by going to its first ever Super Bowl.

Well, have way through the 3rd quarter I began to get the distinct impression that the NFL wanted to find any way it could to get New Orleans in the Super Bowl. It seemed...not calculated...that NO got nearly all the calls and certainly nearly all of the breaks.


PenaltiesMinnesota 5-32New Orleans 9-88


All the calls :roll1:. When you force mistakes, you get breaks. Luck happens when hard work meets opportunity. The NFL didn't throw that game, Favre did.

jlb1705;1649138; said:
I really appreciated how Roger Goodell got the Vikings to turn the ball over so many times. David Stern only wishes he could fix games in such a manner.

FWIW, recovery from Katrina is not the story they're going to be pushing on us the next two weeks. It's gonna be Peyton Manning vs. his daddy's team.

Another good point.

FCollinsBuckeye;1649142; said:
And yet Favre still managed to throw the game away. The Vikings had the game won had Favre ran for ~5 yds and taken a safe slide. Granted, no FG is ever a given, but I have a feeling that if he doesn't throw that INT, the Vikings punch their ticket.

As soon as he threw the pick, I told my wife it was sad to see Favre's last pass in the NFL be such a fundemental mistake (not so surprising though, given his history). Aikmen said something like, "that's the first thing you learn as a QB, not to make that throw". Sad to see Favre throw the SB away, but on the other hand, at least we're spared two weeks of The Legend of Brett Favre coverage.

:p

The Gun Slinger doesn't run and slide, [jersey shore]are you serious right now?[/js] But that's exactly it, he didn't make the smart play. Plain and simple, the man has never been afraid of throwing INTs, and that's why he has had 2 less trips to the SB, at least 2.

For the red, does any one think the next 2 weeks of "Meet the Manning's" will be any better? At least there will be the possibility of a nice story about New Orleans.
 
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