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New Reds owner fires GM O'Brien

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crazybuckfan40 said:
Perferably one with a sinker or can keep that ball low, b/c I have seen way to many balls go out of GABP in teh past couple years.
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About that, does it take a genius to figure out that ground ball pitchers = fewer balls going out of GABP?

If Kearns can get good pitching in return (no more Dave Williamses) I'm all for it. But these rumors are about two weeks old and no longer have substance according to the team.

Usually by the time you hear a trade rumor, it's dead. If there is validity to it, you are hearing that the trade has been done.
 
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The groundball vs flyball thing is nice but how about we just go develop some pitchers who miss the other teams fucking bats?

Pitching to contact was the dumbest thing I've ever heard (except for the words Eric Milton and 27 million in the same sentance).


BTW, regarding Milton. There is no shortage of stats showing how truely awful he was in 2005 but I got this one from RedsZone and it floord me.

This is how Milton fared vs the different slots in the lineup i.e did he just get raked by the #3 and #4 hitters etc.

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[LEFT][B]The Eric Milton chart, per slot in the lineup![/B][/LEFT]
 
               [B]AVG   OBP   SLG    OPS     Comment[/B] 
 
Batting #1    .347  .415  .484   .899     Terrible
Batting #2    .289  .324  .443   .767     Well below average
Batting #3    .298  .337  .723  1.060     Words cannot describe
Batting #4    .351  .384  .691  1.075     Words cannot describe
Batting #5    .276  .340  .471   .811     Terrible
Batting #6    .322  .351  .517   .868     Terrible
Batting #7    .337  .391  .771  1.162     Words cannot describe
Batting #8    .293  .360  .453   .814     Terrible
Batting #9    .181  .179  .278   .457     Who knew?!
 
For reference, the average NL OPS was ~ .744 in 2005


Its no exaggeration to say the only guy he could consistently retire was the opposing pitchers slot. UNFUCKINGBELIEVIBLE.
 
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Pitching to contact was the dumbest thing I've ever heard
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I don't agree that it's totally dumb. It's only mostly dumb. That's certainly a dumb name for it, and the idea works better with better pitchers. Basically, they should think of it as - don't walk ten guys a game - throw some fucking strikes and let the guys behind you do their job.

You're right though. Pitching to contact doesn't work when you play baseball in a shoebox.
 
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jlb1705 said:
I don't agree that it's totally dumb. It's only mostly dumb. That's certainly a dumb name for it, and the idea works better with better pitchers. Basically, they should think of it as - don't walk ten guys a game - throw some fucking strikes and let the guys behind you do their job.

You're right though. Pitching to contact doesn't work when you play baseball in a shoebox.
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Well b4 the pitching to contact came about they were walking guys as much as they were giving up Homers.
 
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jlb1705 said:
I don't agree that it's totally dumb. It's only mostly dumb. That's certainly a dumb name for it, and the idea works better with better pitchers. Basically, they should think of it as - don't walk ten guys a game - throw some fucking strikes and let the guys behind you do their job.

You're right though. Pitching to contact doesn't work when you play baseball in a shoebox.
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GAB isn't their problem, its the useless pieces of flesh hanging from their shoulders.

If you have Maddux control or a heavy sinker, fine, pitch to contact and get a lot of outs on fewer pitches. Problem is none of the Reds pitchers have either of those.

They end up trying to get ground outs with 80 mph slop on the edge, it ends up down the middle and belt high and 400 some odd ft later some fan's life is in danger.

The Reds need pitchers with some honest to god real major league stuff. Not walking guys is a given, missing bats is next.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
GAB isn't their problem, its the useless pieces of flesh hanging from their shoulders.

If you have Maddux control or a heavy sinker, fine, pitch to contact and get a lot of outs on fewer pitches. Problem is none of the Reds pitchers have either of those.

They end up trying to get ground outs with 80 mph slop on the edge, it ends up down the middle and belt high and 400 some odd ft later some fan's life is in danger.

The Reds need pitchers with some honest to god real major league stuff. Not walking guys is a given, missing bats is next.
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Yeah I agree with this, b/c our homefield should help us out more considering we have the flyball hitters and all the power hitters. Other teams are able to come in a shut us down b/c they have something that resembles pitching on their staff.

If we would get above avg. pitching we would be sitting in a nice spot to make the playoffs, b/c we have a good O.
 
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Well we can all relax and order our WS tickets in advance. The Reds just signed Rick F White. He of the 10 year career 4.24 ERA and 1.40 WHIP if you don't know who he is(and you probably shouldn't).:roll2:


Yet ANOTHER 37 year old fuck all journyman pitcher. Add in Womack, Aurillia and Williams. This teams need to stockpile mediocre (at best) players is just fucking astounding.

If this is the prelim for a trade of Mercker or Weathers or any other reliever then I'll reconsider but as of now we need another stiff in the bullpen like Custer needed more Indians.
 
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Beattie likely to be named Reds GM

ESPN

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2323116

The Cincinnati Reds are likely to name Jim Beattie as their new general manager this week, the Dayton Daily News reported Wednesday.
An announcement is expected in the coming days, two sources close to the situation told the newspaper.
New owner Bob Castellini fired incumbent general manager Dan O'Brien on Jan. 23. O'Brien was entering his third season as general manager and had a year to go on his contract.
Castellini brought in Beattie as a special adviser in January.
Beattie became the Orioles' executive vice president of baseball operations in December 2002 but was replaced this fall by his top aide, Mike Flanagan. He also spent time as Expos general manager and won a World Series ring as a right-hander for the 1978 Yankees.
Reds baseball operations director Brad Kullman served as interim general manager and was among nine candidates interviewed for the job.
Castellini began reorganizing the Reds' front office a day after the sale was approved. He put chief operating officer John Allen in charge of business operations, with the general manager reporting to Castellini. Under previous owner Carl Lindner, the general manager reported to Allen.
It was a prelude to change. Castellini said the next general manager will decide if more change is needed.
"I'm not going to get more involved operationally," he said. "We're going to hire a general manager and he's going to assess his personnel."
Reds manager Jerry Narron is under contract through 2006, with a mutual option for 2007. Castellini expects him to manage the club this season.
The Reds have been in turmoil since they moved into Great American Ball Park in 2003. General manager Jim Bowden and manager Bob Boone were fired midway through the inaugural season, with Kullman helping to fill in until O'Brien was chosen after the season.
The Reds have had five consecutive losing seasons, their longest such streak in 50 years.
O'Brien's top goal was to rebuild a farm system that had failed to produce pitchers during Bowden's tenure. During his two years in Cincinnati, O'Brien restructured the minor league system and imposed pitch limits to end a trend of prospects getting hurt.
Reds pitchers and catchers report to spring training in Sarasota, Fla., on Feb. 16.
 
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Well the Dayton Daily News was wrong. I think it's a good pick...he's worked on a small revenue club that has won on a consistent basis.

http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060208&content_id=1308714&vkey=news_cin&fext=.jsp&c_id=cin

Reds tab Krivsky as general manager

CINCINNATI -- It may have required some patience and perseverance on his part, but Wayne Krivsky finally got the job.

On Wednesday, Reds owner and chief executive officer Bob Castellini named Krivsky as the club's new general manager. Krivsky will be formally introduced tonight at a 6 p.m. ET press conference.

Krivsky, who interviewed with Castellini last Wednesday, is entering his 30th year in baseball. The 51-year-old Krivsky had been an assistant GM for Minnesota since 1994 after spending 14 years in the same position with the Rangers. His career began in Texas' ticketing department in 1977.

Working under GM Terry Ryan in Minnesota, Krivsky was often the club's point man in negotiating multi-year contracts and handling arbitration cases. He worked out multi-year deals with All-Stars Torii Hunter and Brad Radke, among others.
Krivsky was also the Twins' main National League scout, which made him quite familiar with the Reds roster.

A total of nine candidates were competing to become the Reds' 17th GM in their 137-year history. Krivsky beat out Reds interim GM and baseball operations director Brad Kullman, Reds director of international scouting Johnny Almaraz, Reds special assistant to the GM Leland Maddox, Reds special advisor Jim Beattie, Cardinals assistant GM John Mozeliak, Phillies assistant GM Mike Arbuckle, Braves assistant GM Frank Wren and White Sox player development director David Wilder.

Upon dismissing former general manager Dan O'Brien on Jan. 23, Castellini said he wanted his new GM to bring a "culture of winning" to the Reds. Krivsky should have an understanding of success with a small market club. The Twins claimed three consecutive American League Central titles from 2002-04 and won 83 games last season while missing the playoffs.

The last time the Reds sought a GM, in 2003 to replace Jim Bowden, O'Brien and Krivsky were both finalists for the job. Back then, Krivsky was believed to be the choice of several people within the organization, including chief operating officer John Allen. Former majority owner Carl Lindner overruled them and selected O'Brien. This time around, Castellini was the ruling voice and his choice was Krivsky.
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