NCAA punishes USC - Reggie Bush, OJ Mayo, Dwayne Jarrett, Joe McKnight investigation

[OCBucksFan]

Who knows if it was limited to just Bush?

True, I guess just as some people are condemning the university at this point I have somehow decided that they must be innocent. Living in the heart of USC-Land also sways my judgement a bit, and when the first information was released it was made to almost sound like Bush himself had no knowledge of the incidents and his parents were going behind his back...

 

[HailToMichigan]

True, I guess just as some people are condemning the university at this point I have somehow decided that they must be innocent. Living in the heart of USC-Land also sways my judgement a bit, and when the first information was released it was made to almost sound like Bush himself had no knowledge of the incidents and his parents were going behind his back...

We'll definitely have to wait and see.....usually though, programs get hammered for the conduct of their players. Right now, it goes without saying that it's too soon to either condemn or exonerate the school. Even if they can prove they weren't involved and didn't know, they'd probably get hit with some kind of probation.

 

[cincibuck]

Just being the devil's advocate here... the cost of housing in most of California is out of touch with any kind of reason. Years ago several schools, Stanford, UC Santa Clara, Berkeley began to buy up houses, or build housing areas for faculty because professors could never hope to buy into the surrounding market and it was beginning to become a reason they weren't able to attract the people they wanted on their faculties.

How do you lure a kid to go to USC if he has to live in a dorm? Or in a three bed room slum special with eight other guys?

Just a guess, but I think it's part of the reason why the program was down for so long; they couldn't attract the kinds of kids they wanted due to the housing market close by the school.

If I'm right it may be another case of being done in by the things you wish for.

 

[Ttown]

Way too much of this cheating . The NCAA needs to find out the whole story and act accordingly. If he is guilty punish him and USC.

 

[Jagdaddy]

Are you serious? You must have been nowhere near Columbus in late '04 and the beginning of '05. Far less evidence did us in.

When were we "done in."? Despite investigations and media scrutiny orders of magnitude greater than what Bush and USC have been subjected to so far, the NCAA did not find a single thing wrong with OSU's football-related conduct. The Troy Smith $500 was self-reported by OSU and resulted in sanctions against Smith only, not the school. While OSU did get hit hard for the hoops violations, in that case you had O'Brien admitting the wrongdoing to Geiger and OSU again admitting to large chunks of the allegations.

Again, IMO until a smoking gun points directly to USC employee involvement, they'll be unscathed.

 

[Jagdaddy]

USC gave the agents in question along with other agents access to the locker room and on the sidelines in games, you cannot get that type of access without consent of the coaches or administration, and its easy to find out if they were there. (Hell there is probably a photograph or two from a photographer by mistake) remember the Ed Martin case, Michigan was tied to Ed Martin because Steve Fisher at first denied knowing him, and later on it was found Martin received tickets to games from the Michigan coaching staff. USC provided access to people that profit by the monetary gains of their clients. This case mirrors the Michigan case, because now the federal government is involved and they can dig where the NCAA cannot.

Is that inside info. or has it been reported somewhere? I'd agree that that could change things . . . depending on the degree of access.

 

[Jeffcat]

i got 2 words.........conclusive evidence

 

[Zippercat]

When they could be setting up camp on campus and trying with everything within their being to find something to prove this case like they did here.

But, its USC. So its all good and shit.

Sorry, but I wasn't in Columbus when that happened. Could you briefly mention what ESPN did, or tell where to look it up? THANKS!

 

[scooter1369]

Sorry, but I wasn't in Columbus when that happened. Could you briefly mention what ESPN did, or tell where to look it up? THANKS!

Were you in an Afghani cave for four years?

You couldn't watch SportsCenter without them mentioning "allegations at Ohio State" even though they were discussing Women's tennis.

You could be watching Duke vs Appalachian State in basketball and the announcers would ignore the game and talk about Maurice Clarett's article in the NYT.

Even the guys at CFN were at it. In the SOC article about the Alamo Bowl, the writer said "I can't help but think about how much coin these guys are making" in reference to Ohio State players.

The only way you missed the coverage of that shit is if you were in prison or castaway on a Pacific island.

ESPN spent three full years trying to bring us down and failed.

 

[BUCKYLE]

Were you in an Afghani cave for four years?

Wouldn't have mattered.
Bin Laden mentioned it in his audio tape from Feb. '03.

 

[OSUsushichic]

The only way you missed the coverage of that shit is if you were in prison or castaway on a Pacific island.

WILSON!!!

 

[zBuckeye10z]

This is my first post on this thread so I dont know if this has been discussed or not but if Bush is found guilty, it has nothing to do with his actions on the field. IMO his Heisman trophy should not be in jeopardy, he earned it and as a penalty for his actions off the field (if found giuly) why not charge him a fine? He has all the money in the world now. I just dont see how the two things (the case if found guilty and his heisman trophy). What would they penalize Bush for if he didnt win the Heisman?

 

[sandgk]

This is my first post on this thread so I dont know if this has been discussed or not but if Bush is found guilty, it has nothing to do with his actions on the field.

Huh? Without those on field actions he nor his family has the attentions of the tape-wielding wannabe agents. Without football he has no trophy, nor do his family (and by extension he) have access to an alleged $280,000 in NCAA prohibited benefits and monies.

IMO his Heisman trophy should not be in jeopardy, he earned it and as a penalty for his actions off the field (if found giuly) why not charge him a fine? He has all the money in the world now. I just dont see how the two things (the case if found guilty and his heisman trophy). What would they penalize Bush for if he didnt win the Heisman?

What you and I feel is one thing, in the end it is up to the 9 members of the Trust. But, you cannot support retention of the Heisman by trying to build a Chinese Wall between actions on and off the field.
As for "fining" Bush, by what authority would such a thing be done? The NFL? They don't give a damn what he did in college, other than all that on field stuff that you hold irrelevant to the discussion. The NCAA? Well, as Bush is not in college they can come begging and pleading. If Bush says no, what can they do that would hurt him in the pocket-book? Nothing.
The party with the greatest exposure to risk here is 'SC - and, should it be proven that they were lacking control, and that Bush and/or LaMar was on the take, only Reggie's goodwill and conscience prompting full payback of any benefits would diminish that risk.

 

[buckeyeboy]

only Reggie's goodwill and conscience prompting full payback of any benefits would diminish that risk.

Fat chance of that happening--Reggie's claimed all along that he's done nothing wrong, despite an ever-increasing amount of evidence that says otherwise.

 

[buck e]

Maybe I heard this wrong, but I thought Joe Schad stated on ESPN radio earlier this week that this agent plans on filing suit against Bush and his family after the Super Bowl, and after its filed, he plans on talking to the NCAA and Pac 10 officials.

Any info out there contrary to this?