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NCAA punishes USC - Reggie Bush, OJ Mayo, Dwayne Jarrett, Joe McKnight investigation

buckeyesin07;1935287; said:
I couldn't really care less about the opponents in those games--I'm more surprised that a Nebraska fan would consider trips to the Independence Bowl, three trips to the Alamo Bowl, three trips to the Holiday Bowl, etc. to be anything other than sub-par. As for the bolded above, you proved my point for me--thanks, by the way--OSU is on such an elite level that those are sub-par bowl games. Evidently, Nebraska isn't on that level.

You're right, Nebraska isn't on that level - right now. Ten years ago we were above you guys by as much as you're above us right now. Then Solich let the program deteriorate and Callahan threw it completely under the bus. We're in recovery mode at the moment, and we appear to be recovering.

Unfortunately, you guys might be experiencing what we went through soon. Coaching changes are never easy. Coaching changes under these kinds of circumstances could be very painful. I don't wish our last ten years on anyone. Let's hope you don't have to go through that.
 
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bassbuckeye07;1935340; said:
statute of limitations is 4 years.....if there was an open investigation left over from 2003 through 2006 i guess it would be possible

That statute of limitations is for NCAA investigations/sanctions, right? I've not seen where the BCS has any similar provisions. While so far the BCS has let the NCAA carry the burden of looking into member schools actions, IF the BCS wanted to look farther back into history it seems likely that they could. :(
 
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knapplc;1935348; said:
You're right, Nebraska isn't on that level - right now. Ten years ago we were above you guys by as much as you're above us right now. Then Solich let the program deteriorate and Callahan threw it completely under the bus. We're in recovery mode at the moment, and we appear to be recovering.

Unfortunately, you guys might be experiencing what we went through soon. Coaching changes are never easy. Coaching changes under these kinds of circumstances could be very painful. I don't wish our last ten years on anyone. Let's hope you don't have to go through that.


Difference is we dont rely on national recruiting as many others do that hopefully can pull us through....your right though a about how a coaching hire can cripple you worse than sanctions....just ask Michigan, ND, and Bama untill they hired Saban
 
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bassbuckeye07;1935382; said:
Difference is we dont rely on national recruiting as many others do that hopefully can pull us through....your right though a about how a coaching hire can cripple you worse than sanctions....just ask Michigan, ND, and Bama untill they hired Saban

Yeah, having a bevy of talent in your back yard and being the biggest show in your state is a huge benefit. What kind of walk-on program do you guys have? I would imagine there are several talented players every year who don't get D1 offers who elect to stay home at OSU, right? Walk-ons have been a Nebraska staple for decades. Without them we'd be lost.
 
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Zippercat;1935381; said:
That statute of limitations is for NCAA investigations/sanctions, right? I've not seen where the BCS has any similar provisions. While so far the BCS has let the NCAA carry the burden of looking into member schools actions, IF the BCS wanted to look farther back into history it seems likely that they could. :(

The BCS is not an investigative or regulatory organization--without the NCAA doing something, the BCS is not going back to 2002 for any reason.
 
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Yeah, having a bevy of talent in your back yard and being the biggest show in your state is a huge benefit. What kind of walk-on program do you guys have? I would imagine there are several talented players every year who don't get D1 offers who elect to stay home at OSU, right? Walk-ons have been a Nebraska staple for decades. Without them we'd be lost.
OSU doesn't get many legendary walkons, but they have a very solid pipeline of good special teamers, scout teamers, 2nd stringers and the occasional starter. It isn't comparable to Nebraska's legendary lineage, but it is pretty solid nonetheless.

Antonio Smith was a thorpe finalist in 2006.

Tressel's excellent specialists (kickers, punters, snappers) often emerge from walkon positions. Andy Groom was a walkon turned all-american. He beat out the scholarship punter BJ Sander, who won the Ray Guy award after Groom. Devin Barclay was clutch in 09, beating Iowa in OT.

OSU does not oversign and also tends to strike out on signing day, so most years 2-3 walkons get awarded with scholarships.

If we're including players before Tressel, Terry Glenn is probably the best all time walkon.
 
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MaliBuckeye;1934931; said:
Stripped of the 2004 National Title.

So, the "greatest team ever" didn't win one BCS championship. Wonder how deep into SportsCenter we're going to see this buried.

You've also got to wonder how much of this is posturing by the BCS headed into their meetings with the feds, and also a response to the Fiesta Fiasco.

One of the top stories on Sportscenter.
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:lol: I don't think we'll be seeing that one for OSU.

Admittedly, Forde was more balanced talking about the tainted legacy and the fallout from this.
 
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MaliBuckeye;1934931; said:
Stripped of the 2004 National Title.

So, the "greatest team ever" didn't win one BCS championship. Wonder how deep into SportsCenter we're going to see this buried.

You've also got to wonder how much of this is posturing by the BCS headed into their meetings with the feds, and also a response to the Fiesta Fiasco.
LSU finally wins the "Repeat" fight. Tiger fans talked about "one-peat" , now they can talk about "no-peat". :lol:
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;1935719; said:
Seriously? The guy who has fallen uphill his entire career?

yes.On ESPN today, they listed NCAA/ Tennessee facing troubles with Kiffins name listed with it. So if , more stuff hits them will it follow him since, he was the coach.I know the NCAA had those basketball problems and didn't follow that coach from Memphis/Kentucky
 
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Report: Bush hasn't handed over Heisman

Updated Jun 8, 2011 2:17 AM ET

Former USC running back Reggie Bush, who announced last September he would forfeit his 2005 Heisman Trophy amid allegations he received improper benefits while in college, is still in possession of the coveted bronze statue, the Dan Patrick Show reported Tuesday.
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The source also said the Trust has made more than one attempt to arrange the award's return, adding the Trust has even offered to cover the shipping and handling fees for the 25-pound (11.3 kg) bronze statue.
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Entire article: http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/Reggie-Bush-still-has-Heisman-Trophy-060711
 
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knapplc;1935348; said:
Ten years ago we were above you guys by as much as you're above us right now.

Stop sniffing ethanol.

2001-2010
(2) Ohio State 106-22 83%
(23) Nebraska 84-46 65%

1991-2001
(2) Nebraska 109-15-1 88%
(9) Ohio State 92-29-2 76%

During the 90's Ohio State had five 10+ win seasons & multiple top 5 finishes. They had 3 single loss seasons.

During the 00's Nebraska had two 5 win seasons & only lost fewer than 4 games twice (one 3 loss and a single 2 loss season). They finished .500 or worse three times.

The 90's Buckeyes were a hair away from multiple titles. The 00's Huskers were a hair away from being irrelevant.

They're closer to the 80's '9-3 Earle' Buckeyes of the 80's.


Gatorubet;1935476; said:
LSU finally wins the "Repeat" fight.

In the time honored SEC tradition of their opponent's top player being sidelined.
 
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