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NCAA punishes USC - Reggie Bush, OJ Mayo, Dwayne Jarrett, Joe McKnight investigation

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knapplc;1935279; said:
Like beating VA Tech in 1996?
Like winning the National Championship in 1997?
Like beating Tennessee in 1999?
Like spanking Northwestern in 2000?
Like playing for another National Championship in 2001? (and getting trounced, of course)
Like beating Sparty in 2003?
Like beating Michigan in 2005?
Like beating Clemson in 2008?
Like beating Arizona in 2009?

Eight bowl wins including one national championship, played for another championship and lost, and that time span includes the worst decade of football in 40 years. I can think of about 100 teams in D1 that would take that as a "whole bunch of sub-par bowl games."

Now, if you want to focus on our losses to Ole Miss, Auburn, Arizona (1999), Miami (flat embarrassing) and Washington this last December (also inexcusably embarrassing), then sure, that's sub-par. Or if you want to talk about the fact that we didn't even go to bowl games twice in the Callahan Era, yes, that's definitely sub-par. But even including all of that, even knowing that's our "dark age" of Husker football, I'd still say that's pretty good.
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I couldn't really care less about the opponents in those games--I'm more surprised that a Nebraska fan would consider trips to the Independence Bowl, three trips to the Alamo Bowl, three trips to the Holiday Bowl, etc. to be anything other than sub-par. As for the bolded above, you proved my point for me--thanks, by the way--OSU is on such an elite level that those are sub-par bowl games. Evidently, Nebraska isn't on that level.
 
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Like beating Sparty in 2003?
Like beating Michigan in 2005?
Like beating Clemson in 2008?
Like beating Arizona in 2009?
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I think you may be confused which -planet you are on :wink:
Now, if you want to focus
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That's kind of his schtick :wink:
2001 Hurricanes - eked out a win against VA Tech. Lackluster game against BC.
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You seem to have left out the bowl game performances in this synopsis, as well as every good outing all year. :lol:
 
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jwinslow;1935295; said:
You seem to have left out the bowl game performances in this synopsis, as well as every good outing all year. :lol:
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What bowl game? If I recall correctly, the title was just given to Miami after the 2001 season. I don't seem to recall them playing in a bowl game......?
 
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Bucky Katt;1935292; said:
Well, sure. When in discussion with a Michigan fan, it totally doesn't count. When in discussion with a Nebraska fan, it totally does.
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I realize this, which is why I don't mind getting the business over here. I don't expect a bunch of atta-boys for how super-awesome Nebraska is. OSU is one of the few schools that, both recently and over the course of the last 50 years, that Nebraska can legitimately look up to. I have nothing but respect for the Buckeyes, your coaches, players and traditions.
 
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2001 Hurricanes - eked out a win against VA Tech. Lackluster game against BC.
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A defense with Reed, Vilma, McDougle, Rumph, Buchanan, Taylor (as a backup) would have been a great matchup against the legendary Husker option offense, as well as Dorsey, Portis, Johnson, Shockey, McKinney on offense.

They captured the individual Maxwell, Thorpe, Rimington, Outland, Mackey, Ray Guy, Tatupu awards, finalist for Heisman & Lou Groza, and even captured the academic heisman.

In no world is the quoted sentence a fair depiction of that team's greatness. It's not Miami's fault that there wasn't a championship caliber team to play them in the NC game.
 
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they just had bill hancock from the BCS on the dan patrick show and the topic of ohio states national championship was brought up and if it was possible that it could be taken away and bill hancock said they would let the NCAA look into it....is this even possible? or did dan mean the sugar bowl against arkansas and not the 2003 championship
 
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jwinslow;1935306; said:
A defense with Reed, Vilma, McDougle, Rumph, Buchanan, Taylor (as a backup) would certainly have been a great matchup against the legendary Husker option offense, as well as Dorsey, Portis, Johnson, Shockey, McKinney on offense.

They captured the individual Maxwell, Thorpe, Rimington, Outland, Mackey, Ray Guy, Tatupu awards, finalist for Heisman & Lou Groza, and even captured the academic heisman.

In no world is the quoted sentence a fair depiction of that team's greatness. It's not Miami's fault that there was no one truly championship caliber to play them in the NC game.
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2001 Miami was, without question, an impressive team. But if we're talking the greatest team ever, I don't think margin of victory is an unfair benchmark. They had all the talent in the world, but talent only gets you so far without will. That will to win is what separates the 1995 Nebraska team from other all-time greats, in my not-so-unbiased opinion.

The teams Nebraska played in 1995 were no less avid to take them down than the teams 2001 Miami played. The difference between the two is that, despite playing the tougher schedule of the two, 1995 Nebraska not only beat every team they played, they dismantled them.
 
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y0yoyoin;1935308; said:
they just had bill hancock from the BCS on the dan patrick show and the topic of ohio states national championship was brought up and if it was possible that it could be taken away and bill hancock said they would let the NCAA look into it....is this even possible? or did dan mean the sugar bowl against arkansas and not the 2003 championship
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Why would they take away your 2002 title? The current situation/controversy centers on recent events. Even if they can draw tattoo-gate back to 2002, to me it would take a heck of a lot more than some tats for trinkets "scandal" to warrant taking away a title.

I see no justification for that. The Bush/USC situation is very different.
 
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y0yoyoin;1935308; said:
they just had bill hancock from the BCS on the dan patrick show and the topic of ohio states national championship was brought up and if it was possible that it could be taken away and bill hancock said they would let the NCAA look into it....is this even possible? or did dan mean the sugar bowl against arkansas and not the 2003 championship
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this is just playing it up for the haters for rantings. That team was investigated more thoroughly than any other team in the history of football and found basically nothing.
 
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knapplc;1935318; said:
Why would they take away your 2002 title? The current situation/controversy centers on recent events. Even if they can draw tattoo-gate back to 2002, to me it would take a heck of a lot more than some tats for trinkets "scandal" to warrant taking away a title.

I see no justification for that. The Bush/USC situation is very different.
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thats what i am saying...im just relaying what i just saw on the dan patrick show
 
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