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NCAA punishes USC - Reggie Bush, OJ Mayo, Dwayne Jarrett, Joe McKnight investigation

Well, it seems USC's booster support system is not as strong as Bucknuts wants to believe. I mean, if our stud RB's family has to turn to allegedly defrauding a bunch of criminals to make ends meet, then cash payments can't be that good.

I guess if we improve our financial support of our players, they won't get in trouble like this. Life is full of ironies.
 
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Sounds like Reggie may have been "in the know" more than he's claiming.

POSTED 9:29 p.m. EDT; UPDATED 9:39 p.m. EDT, April 28, 2006

USC'S UNDISPUTED TITLE SUDDENLY IN DISPUTE?

Profootballtalk.com has learned that Michael Michaels and New Era Sports and Entertainment contend that the first payments made to LaMar Griffin, the stepfather of Reggie Bush, occurred in 2004.

A press release issued on Friday night claims that Michaels gave $28,000 to Griffin to "clear up some debt." The payment was made at Griffin's request so that he could "focus" on the new business enterprise aimed at profiting from Bush's marketing potential.

Brian Watkins, counsel for New Era, tells us that the payment was made in 2004.

If the allegations of Watkins and Michaels in this regard are accurate, Bush's ineligibility first arose in the 2004 season.

And if it can be shown that the folks at USC knew or should have known about Bush's status, that crystal football the Trojans won in January 2005 might be smashed into a million little pieces.

We're not saying that USC ultimately will be required to forfeit its 2004 national title. But losing the championship after the fact is now squarely within the range of potential consequences that the Trojans face, in light of the revelation that Griffin allegedly began to get paid for his stepson's potential during the season in which the championship was secured.

POSTED 8:25 p.m. EDT, April 28, 2006

NEW ERA LAWYERS LASH OUT AT BUSH, GRIFFIN

At a time when reports that the family of Reggie Bush received benefits in violation of NCAA bylaws might have cost him the No. 1 overall spot in the NFL draft, lawyers for the sports marketing firm at the center of the storm are lashing out in response to suggestions that New Era attempted to extort money from the Bushes.

"We find Reggie Bush's statement that he did 'absolutely nothing wrong' to be absolutely false," writes the law firm of Watkins & Pavone in a press release disseminated early Friday evening. (We actually were on the distribution list.)

"We find these statements to be shameless falsehoods," the release states. "In point of fact, Lamar [sic] and Denise Griffin, Reggie Bush's parents, with Reggie's knowledge, defrauded our clients out of large sums of money by holding out the carrot of Bush's future football career in order to entice our clients to invest in their sports and entertainment company."

The release claims that the relationship between Michael Michaels and LaMar Griffin began in October 2004. Griffin, it is alleged, approached Michaels at a Chargers game with an "investment opportunity." Griffin, it is contended, wanted Michaels to finance Griffin's proposed sports marketing enterprise.

"In November 2004 in San Diego, Reggie Bush, recruited by his stepfather to validate Mr. Griffin's company, convinced our clients of its viability. Our clients in good faith devoted their energy and financial resources."

And then it gets really interesting.

As time passed, Griffin "began to reveal that Reggie's continued participation came with conditions." Per the press release, Griffin asked for $28,000 from Michaels and Lloyd Lake in order to "clear up some debt," which would allow Griffin to "focus" on the new endeavor. After inspecting an accounting of the Griffin debts, Michaels and Lake complied.

Next, Griffin tried to use his connection with Michaels to persuade the financially succesful Sycuan tribe to invest in the project. Griffin supposedly attended the meeting with the Sycuan tribe wearing a Reggie Bush jersey.

In April 2005, Griffin told Michaels and Lake that the family was experiencing housing problems. So Michaels leased the house that started this whole ordeal to them, but they never paid rent.

Eventually, Bush signed with Mike Ornstein to handle his marketing. Thereafter, Michaels and Lake sought legal counsel.

"The Bush family cavalierly defrauded Mr. Michaels and Mr. Lake out of approximately $300,000 in out-of-pocket costs alone, over a span of 1-1/2 years. . . . The suggestion that Reggie Bush did not know how his parents were financing their new life in an upscale residential home is preposterous."

The press release claims that, once the relationship began to sour, Bush himself sent a text message to Michaels: "Nobody is trying to screw u," Bush wrote. "We're not [trying to screw] Lloyd."

Here's our take. The fact that LaMar Griffin specifically solicited payment from prospective agents, who apparently were not previously inclined to get into the business, makes this whole thing look and feel a lot uglier. This isn't a situation of a slick-talking huckster trying to dupe Mom and Pop. This is, by all appearances, Mom and Pop trying to dupe the would-be agent into coughing up a ton of money -- and then not delivering on the promises that allegedly were made.

And it is, if true, the receipt of benefits from an agent, in violation of NCAA rules. If true, Reggie was ineligible for all of 2005.
 
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Man oh man. This is getting to look like what we went through look like a cake walk. Feel for you Thomps. I think the train has left the station and no way it is coming back. Nothing but bad can come of this now and I expect it to get a lot worse.:(
 
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These things never cease to amaze me.

At the moment, the allegations focus around Bush, his family, and some scheisters. The fact that one player can cause such damage to his school is mind boggling. Is it any wonder that the player in question probably doesn't take seriously the thought that his actions could have these consequences?

It was the same for us a couple years ago. Total anal reaming and misery. Poor USC. No matter how well-intentioned and conscientious they have been, there is no way to escape the mudslinging--regardless of the outcome of this investigation. This is why I hate the media.


...and the NCAA, sometimes.
 
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I have a problem with this. If the rule isn't already in place, you can't fuck with the title.

ASSUMING
that the allegations are true...

I disagree with you here. This is like MLB and the players hiding behind the no rule against steroids in the 90's and that whole fiasco. If it was illegal for a citizen it is illegal for the professional athlete.

In this situation, if Reggie Bush was ineligible (which is yet to be proven) the mythical BCS championship should be removed as well. USC cheated, therefore should not reap the rewards of cheating.

That being said, I am not going to jump to conclusions about USC or Bush's guilt until all of the facts come out. We are not too far removed from our own little mud-slinging contest a few years ago. I like to think that I have learned my lesson from these media outlets...

They sell papers/subscriptions. Not necessarily report and investigate the truth.
 
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ASSUMING
that the allegations are true...

I disagree with you here. This is like MLB and the players hiding behind the no rule against steroids in the 90's and that whole fiasco. If it was illegal for a citizen it is illegal for the professional athlete.

In this situation, if Reggie Bush was ineligible (which is yet to be proven) the mythical BCS championship should be removed as well. USC cheated, therefore should not reap the rewards of cheating.

That being said, I am not going to jump to conclusions about USC or Bush's guilt until all of the facts come out. We are not too far removed from our own little mud-slinging contest a few years ago. I like to think that I have learned my lesson from these media outlets...

They sell papers/subscriptions. Not necessarily report and investigate the truth.

I agree that if the rule were already in place, yank it out from under them. But this is something they should have anticipated when they created the BCS and set that rule into place from the beginning. Changing the rules for the purpose of removing the title from USC seems more like a witch hunt than exacting justice.
 
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I agree that if the rule were already in place, yank it out from under them. But this is something they should have anticipated when they created the BCS and set that rule into place from the beginning. Changing the rules for the purpose of removing the title from USC seems more like a witch hunt than exacting justice.

I understand what you are saying.

My point is. IF USC cheated to win the National Championship, remove it from them. That is fair. BTW, I don' think the BCS needs to create a rule to do so. If they just removed it from them by simply saying- You guys cheated. That would suffice to me.

Mind you I said IF.
 
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Sounds like Reggie may have been "in the know" more than he's claiming.
Recent reports suggest (per Michaels mouthpiece Watkins) that all cash disbursements to the Griffins by New Era / Michaels were throughout 2005. Compare the two bolded sentences below. My point being that there is inconsistency in Watkins' public statements on behalf of his client.
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This would leave the attention on the 2005 season, and the question of BCS retroactive "title" stripping becomes moot.

Lawyer: Bush's parents got cash

Investors allegedly paid them $100,000 By Brent Schrotenboer

STAFF WRITER
April 29, 2006
Reggie Bush's parents received more than $100,000 in cash disbursements since late 2004 from investors in the sports marketing agency that sought to represent their son, according to a letter written by the investors' attorney to the Bush family. Attorney Brian Watkins said yesterday Bush's parents, LaMar and Denise Griffin, asked for the money in part to resolve financial problems. Watkins said that sum included an initial payment of about $30,000 to help start up the agency, New Era Sports and Entertainment.
Watkins also said the money was disbursed throughout 2005 and was given on more than one occasion at the home of the Lake family, whose son, Lloyd, was an investor in New Era.
In the letter dated Feb. 13, Watkins asked David Cornwell, the Bush family's attorney, if he wanted to involve USC in settlement discussions.
“We would not object to their (USC's) participation as we understand their wanting to be involved due to the fact this matter was ongoing during their Championship season of 2004 as well as the entire season of 2005, and any lawsuit filed might have an adverse effect on them,” the letter from Watkins stated.
USC spokesman Tim Tessalone said he had no knowledge of the letter and could not comment.
Angie Cretors, the NCAA's assistant director for Agent, Gambling and Amateurism Activities, is expected to be in San Diego to investigate the case early next week, according to travel records. USC referred the matter last week to the Pac-10 Conference for investigation.
It is a violation of NCAA rules for student-athletes or their relatives or friends to receive extra benefits from prospective agents. If an athlete or his family commits such a violation, the athlete would be ruled ineligible, even if it's retroactive. USC could face sanctions, including possible forfeiture of games.
Cornwell has not returned several phone messages seeking comment. Bush's marketing representative, Mike Ornstein, also did not return messages. The Bush family could not be reached for comment in New York, where Bush, the Heisman Trophy-winning running back, is expected to be a high pick today in the NFL draft.
Watkins represents Lake, a former Helix High basketball player now in federal prison, and Michael Michaels, the owner of the 3,002-square-foot Spring Valley house Bush's parents lived in for the past year before moving out last week. Michaels said Thursday that LaMar and Denise Griffin failed to pay $54,000 in rent for the 12 months they lived in the house. Both Lake and Michaels were investors in New Era.
Michaels said when the Griffins ran into financial trouble, they told him they eventually would pay him rent owed when Bush started making money from his pro football career.
Watkins said his clients are seeking about $300,000 in “out-of-pocket” expenses, including the unpaid rent. They said they are planning a $3.2 million fraud suit against the Bush family. Because it's a fraud case, punitive damages are 10 times the compensatory damages of about $300,000, Watkins said.
The disagreement began after Bush decided to go with a different agent (Joel Segal) and marketing representative (Ornstein), killing the possibility of a deal with New Era.
A press release issued by Watkins' firm yesterday said Bush's parents “defrauded our clients out of large sums of money by holding the carrot of Bush's future football career in order to entice our clients to invest in their sports and entertainment company.”
Griffin was to be an owner in New Era, Watkins said. Griffin “targeted Mr. Michaels in Michaels' box suite, as a financier to invest money after a Chargers football game in 2004,” according to the release.
It also stated, “As Mr. Griffin, Mr. Lake and Mr. Michaels began working on the technicalities of the company, ongoing meetings with Mr. Griffin began to reveal that Reggie's continued participation came with conditions. Mr. Griffin suggested that in order to 'keep them happy,' Michaels and Lake would have to help them with some of their personal problems.”
That included a $28,000 sum to help him “focus” on the enterprise, the release said.
“The whole reason why the Griffins met Michael Michaels was to do this business venture,” Watkins said.
Michaels said the fraud allegation is about getting his money back, and that he has no ill will toward Bush. If the NCAA determines Bush to be ineligible for 2005, his Heisman Trophy could come into question.
“I don't want the kid to lose his Heisman,” Michaels said. “He earned it just like I earned my money.”
In a related development, the NFL and its Players Association are investigating alleged improper activity by certified agent David Caravantes, and have yet to come to a conclusion, contrary to a broadcast report. Caravantes, who at one time was considered for New Era's position of chief executive officer, denies any wrongdoing.
Caravantes said he never officially joined New Era, never met Bush and only had an interview with his parents once. Watkins said Caravantes' role in this matter is mistakenly being mixed up with his own pending litigation against the Bush family, and that he does not represent Caravantes.
New Era approached him to join its group to help negotiate contracts, Caravantes said, but ultimately the deal fizzled.
“I'm squeaky clean,” Caravantes said. “I've never had allegations of doing anything wrong.”
Bush has denied any improprieties took place and promised details would emerge later that would clear up the situation.
 
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I have a problem with this. If the rule isn't already in place, you can't fuck with the title.

I agree with you scooter. Changing the rules after the fact is BS. I believe this situation shows that the NCAA needs to step in and take control of the title game. This could be reason 1001 why people want a playoff. :tongue2:

But nobody will take away USC's 2005 AP title, whatever happens.

Reggie Bush is about to be a rich man, while USC is left to deal with whatever consequences come about from the investigation.
 
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Recent reports suggest (per Michaels mouthpiece Watkins) that all cash disbursements to the Griffins by New Era / Michaels were throughout 2005. Compare the two bolded sentences below. My point being that there is inconsistency in Watkins' public statements on behalf of his client.
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This would leave the attention on the 2005 season, and the question of BCS retroactive "title" stripping becomes moot.

Those two bolded statements don't contradict each other. Receiving money throughout 2005 would mean that he received money from the beginning to the end of the year. Which would make sense if the payments started in 2004.
 
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