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It seems to me that the IU officials are just covering their backsides legally before they terminate him. According to the contract, once they have "just cause" to terminate him, they can notify him and place him on suspension - and he then has 10 days to respond the the University President. At that point the University President has the final decision regarding termination, and they only have to pay him through the end of whatever month that occurs in.
I don't think they're concerned about whether or not they have to pay him for March because of a brief delay in the process. I think they want the appearance of a cautious, prudent approach; and doing an investigation now gives them that. Since the violations were self-reported back in October, they're already very aware of most of Sampson's transgressions. I think they are being methodical, and avoiding the appearance of a knee-jerk reaction (which some may have labeled the firing of Sampson right after receiving the NCAA report).
I'll be surprised if he isn't suspended by the end of February, and terminated within 2 weeks after that. I'm guessing it will once again take a few days after the IU president receives Sampson's response, in order to demonstrate the prudence of taking the time to review his response.
During the entire time, the IU President, AD, and board members need to be careful to not indicate that the termination is a "fait accompli" (i.e., a "done deal"), in order to avoid any indication that Sampson was not given due process.
But just because they're not indicating publicly that they plan on canning him ASAP doesn't mean that isn't their plan.
I don't think they're concerned about whether or not they have to pay him for March because of a brief delay in the process. I think they want the appearance of a cautious, prudent approach; and doing an investigation now gives them that. Since the violations were self-reported back in October, they're already very aware of most of Sampson's transgressions. I think they are being methodical, and avoiding the appearance of a knee-jerk reaction (which some may have labeled the firing of Sampson right after receiving the NCAA report).
I'll be surprised if he isn't suspended by the end of February, and terminated within 2 weeks after that. I'm guessing it will once again take a few days after the IU president receives Sampson's response, in order to demonstrate the prudence of taking the time to review his response.
During the entire time, the IU President, AD, and board members need to be careful to not indicate that the termination is a "fait accompli" (i.e., a "done deal"), in order to avoid any indication that Sampson was not given due process.
But just because they're not indicating publicly that they plan on canning him ASAP doesn't mean that isn't their plan.
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OSUBasketballJunkie
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When Mike Davis was let go at Indiana two years ago......my opinion is that the IU administration felt that the top coaches in basketball would be anxious to get a shot at this legendary program.....as it turns out....they realized early that the top candidates for the job no longer viewed Indiana as a top program due to the Knight fans and the facilities in Bloomington....the IU administration and specifically the AD were under a ton of pressure to bring winning back to the program.....due to this they took a chance on a coach with no ties to the Indiana program and with just a 455-257 overall record and NCAA baggage in the tune of 577 illegal phone calls....
Now they are in their worst nightmare......
Now they are in their worst nightmare......
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In my mind, the important test of these allegations will be whether he did indeed lie to the University and NCAA. I don't understand why the University has to wait for the NCAA to terminate an employee.
He has a contract that specifically forbids the type of thing he did. The evidence already has been compiled. It should be a simple matter to advise him that he is being suspended due to the charges and to provide him with specific charges upon which he would have to prepare a defense. For instance, if he said he didn't call these kids and he did or lied about participating in a three-way, then it should be no more than a few days to let him respond to the charges and to collect evidence for others who were involved.
If IU presents him with specific charges and gives him a fair opportunity to acquit himself and he cannot, then the IU will not be exposed as Ohio State was. Don't forget that Ohio State's contract with O'Brien was badly written and required NCAA charges to stick. That is not the case in this one.
I think he will be gone by the end of the month.
He has a contract that specifically forbids the type of thing he did. The evidence already has been compiled. It should be a simple matter to advise him that he is being suspended due to the charges and to provide him with specific charges upon which he would have to prepare a defense. For instance, if he said he didn't call these kids and he did or lied about participating in a three-way, then it should be no more than a few days to let him respond to the charges and to collect evidence for others who were involved.
If IU presents him with specific charges and gives him a fair opportunity to acquit himself and he cannot, then the IU will not be exposed as Ohio State was. Don't forget that Ohio State's contract with O'Brien was badly written and required NCAA charges to stick. That is not the case in this one.
I think he will be gone by the end of the month.
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I agree with this - but only up to a point.
The best way to enforce the rules is to make the decision makers (ADs and University Presidents) feel the pain. Punishing the coach doesn't do that. Taking down banners doesn't do that. Reducing their ability to compete for revenue does that.
Kids get blindsided and that is a shame. But Sampson was tainted. IU knew it and new kids to the IU program should have known it. The IU LOIs should have included a disclaimer describing all infractions of the university and its coaches over the past five years. Anything that makes it hard for tainted coaches to succeed is a good thing.
But I also believe the rules should allow kids to transfer from penalized program without sitting out. That not only is fair to the kids, but it further punishes the program which should be the target of penalties.
[sermon]All that said the REAL problem stems from continuing to manage multi-million dollar programs in a multi-billion dollar industry on the backs of amateur athletes as though that isn't the most absurd concept imaginable.
And THAT is why transfer restrictions are so important. IU Basketball is a brand just as OSU Football is a brand. Nike knows it. Gatorade knows it. We all know it.
Letting kids move to a school where it benefits them without sitting out a year would undermine that brand name relationship. Are we as rabid fans last season if suddenly Beanie is a Wolverine and Henne is a Buckeye?
It is ALL about the money. And if IU had been able to win the NC this season before Sampson was outed no amount of sanctions would have made it a net loss for that program.[/sermon]
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If you would lie on your employment application and your employer would find out later, it would be grounds for immediate termination. I thought that IU had a pretty good business school.
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IndyStar.com: Live video of news conference | IndyStar.com
Also, Scout is reporting that Sampsons weekly press conference is cancelled today.
Scout.com: McRobbie To Address Sampson Situation at 3
Also, Scout is reporting that Sampsons weekly press conference is cancelled today.
Scout.com: McRobbie To Address Sampson Situation at 3
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OSUBasketballJunkie
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The situation at Indiana is far from over and they most likely will face some NCAA sanctions including post season ban and loss of scholies......not sure the list of coaches that will be lining up for that job considering the last time it opened it was in far better shape......and they had to settle on Sampson......
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LitlBuck
Kevin Warren is an ass
I think you know he is already on that staff and was brought in to appease the Indiana faithful that some form of Knight link. When that job opened up the last time, there were not a lot of coaches jumping at it. Maybe we are getting off topic here and should wait until something happens. Leave that up to you.
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LitlBuck;1093353; said:
Are the allegations indicative of the entire staff's actions, or just Sampson's?
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