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LitlBuck
Kevin Warren is an ass
Bye-bye Greenspan
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It will be very interesting to see how hard Indiana gets hit with this lack of institutional control over the basketball program. I do not think this is looking very good and I just want to see if the NCAA comes down hard on them like they should.
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ScriptOhio
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Gee, had Miles Brand not of fired Bobby Knight none of this would have been possible. I know Miles Brand is no longer there; however, I wonder if those currently in charge at IU now regret Brand's action to fire Knight. We know (first hand) that NCAA sanctions are no fun. Bobby Knight may have had some "personality issues"; but he always ran a "squeaky clean" program.
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LitlBuck
Kevin Warren is an ass
While I agree with you regarding Brand, I think Bobby's actions were wearing a little thin not only in IU but in the eyes of the entire NCAA and especially the Big 10. While Davis was not the greatest of hires
at least he did not bring baggage with him and Greenspan, along with other members of the search committee, had to be idiots to hire someone who had previously broken the NCAA rules. In my mind, they could have found someone who was clean and just as good of a basketball coach.
at least he did not bring baggage with him and Greenspan, along with other members of the search committee, had to be idiots to hire someone who had previously broken the NCAA rules. In my mind, they could have found someone who was clean and just as good of a basketball coach.
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McRobbie: Sampson hiring 'a risk that should not have been taken'
INDIANAPOLIS -- Indiana University's president told the NCAA infractions committee that the hiring of ousted basketball coach Kelvin Sampson was "a risk that should not have been taken."
President Michael McRobbie told the committee during a private session on June 14 that Sampson had betrayed the school's trust in violating NCAA regulations on telephone calls to recruits. The text of McRobbie's statement was released Monday by the university under a public records request and was first reported by The Herald-Times of Bloomington on its Web site.
The NCAA has accused Sampson of providing false and misleading information to investigators about more than 100 impermissible phone calls to recruits.
Indiana announced Thursday -- the same day that athletic director Rick Greenspan said he would resign at the end of the year -- that the university faced a new NCAA allegation of failing to adequately monitor the basketball staff.
Sampson, who left Indiana in February after accepting a $750,000 buyout, was under NCAA recruiting restrictions when IU hired him in 2006 because of a previous phone-call scandal at Oklahoma.
McRobbie, who took over as Indiana president after Sampson was hired, told the infractions committee that Sampson's actions left the basketball program "in tatters" and that new coach Tom Crean faced rebuilding the team.
"Indiana University took a risk in hiring Coach Sampson and giving him a second chance following his problems at Oklahoma," McRobbie said. "It is now clear that this was a risk that should not have been taken and the university regrets doing so."
A message seeking comment from Sampson was left Monday with the sports agency that represents him.
One of Sampson's assistant coaches is accused of making recruiting calls in the presence of Sampson and handing the phone to recruits and recruits' parents and coaches on recruiting trips, so they could speak to Sampson.
The NCAA banned such practices when it handed down the punishment against Sampson at Oklahoma in May 2006.
Sampson, now an assistant with the NBA's Milwaukee Bucks, has repeatedly denied he was knowingly involved in three-way calls at Indiana and disputed the NCAA's contention that he did not tell investigators the whole truth.
McRobbie said in his statement by videoconference to the infractions committee meeting in Seattle that Indiana officials believed "the evidence clearly demonstrates" that Sampson and an assistant coach tried to circumvent the sanctions against Sampson.
"These coaches were entrusted not just with the success of our men's basketball program, but with the good name of Indiana University," McRobbie said. "I am not just saddened, I am angry, that they betrayed that trust."
McRobbie asked the infractions committee to consider that Indiana had faced no allegations of major NCAA violations in nearly 50 years as it decided what punishment to impose.
In October, Indiana officials stripped the basketball team of one scholarship for next season, extended Sampson's recruiting restrictions for another year and took away a $500,000 raise that was due Sampson. But Sampson's February resignation came just days after the NCAA accused him of committing major rules infractions, rather than the secondary violations reported by the school.
Entire article: ESPN - McRobbie: Sampson hiring 'a risk that should not have been taken' - Men's College Basketball
INDIANAPOLIS -- Indiana University's president told the NCAA infractions committee that the hiring of ousted basketball coach Kelvin Sampson was "a risk that should not have been taken."
President Michael McRobbie told the committee during a private session on June 14 that Sampson had betrayed the school's trust in violating NCAA regulations on telephone calls to recruits. The text of McRobbie's statement was released Monday by the university under a public records request and was first reported by The Herald-Times of Bloomington on its Web site.
The NCAA has accused Sampson of providing false and misleading information to investigators about more than 100 impermissible phone calls to recruits.
Indiana announced Thursday -- the same day that athletic director Rick Greenspan said he would resign at the end of the year -- that the university faced a new NCAA allegation of failing to adequately monitor the basketball staff.
Sampson, who left Indiana in February after accepting a $750,000 buyout, was under NCAA recruiting restrictions when IU hired him in 2006 because of a previous phone-call scandal at Oklahoma.
McRobbie, who took over as Indiana president after Sampson was hired, told the infractions committee that Sampson's actions left the basketball program "in tatters" and that new coach Tom Crean faced rebuilding the team.
"Indiana University took a risk in hiring Coach Sampson and giving him a second chance following his problems at Oklahoma," McRobbie said. "It is now clear that this was a risk that should not have been taken and the university regrets doing so."
A message seeking comment from Sampson was left Monday with the sports agency that represents him.
One of Sampson's assistant coaches is accused of making recruiting calls in the presence of Sampson and handing the phone to recruits and recruits' parents and coaches on recruiting trips, so they could speak to Sampson.
The NCAA banned such practices when it handed down the punishment against Sampson at Oklahoma in May 2006.
Sampson, now an assistant with the NBA's Milwaukee Bucks, has repeatedly denied he was knowingly involved in three-way calls at Indiana and disputed the NCAA's contention that he did not tell investigators the whole truth.
McRobbie said in his statement by videoconference to the infractions committee meeting in Seattle that Indiana officials believed "the evidence clearly demonstrates" that Sampson and an assistant coach tried to circumvent the sanctions against Sampson.
"These coaches were entrusted not just with the success of our men's basketball program, but with the good name of Indiana University," McRobbie said. "I am not just saddened, I am angry, that they betrayed that trust."
McRobbie asked the infractions committee to consider that Indiana had faced no allegations of major NCAA violations in nearly 50 years as it decided what punishment to impose.
In October, Indiana officials stripped the basketball team of one scholarship for next season, extended Sampson's recruiting restrictions for another year and took away a $500,000 raise that was due Sampson. But Sampson's February resignation came just days after the NCAA accused him of committing major rules infractions, rather than the secondary violations reported by the school.
Entire article: ESPN - McRobbie: Sampson hiring 'a risk that should not have been taken' - Men's College Basketball
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ScriptOhio
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Afraid of Academic Progress Rate report, Hoosiers give up two scholarships
INDIANAPOLIS -- Indiana will give up two basketball scholarships for the upcoming season in anticipation of penalties related to the NCAA's Academic Progress Rate, assistant athletic director Frank Cuervo confirmed Wednesday.
The APR is a percentage score over a rolling four-year period that measures retention and eligibility of players. Teams can lose scholarships if their score is subpar and they have a player who left school early and would not have been academically eligible had he remained.
University officials don't comment on players' academic standing due to privacy laws, but coach Tom Crean has said he "inherited a tremendous amount of dysfunction."
School spokesman J.D. Campbell told the Indianapolis Star for a story on its website that the move is related to the number of players who have left since the end of the 2007-08 season. Eric Gordon went to the NBA. Brandon McGee, DeAndre Thomas, Armon Bassett and Jamarcus Ellis were dismissed from the team, and Eli Holman and Jordan Crawford left the program.
Campbell did not immediately return phone calls from the Associated Press for additional comment.
But Cuervo said it wasn't that simple.
"It's not necessarily about one issue," said Cuervo. "It's obviously related to the APR score. In terms of reasons, it's not necessarily due to just players leaving.
Indiana already has given up one scholarship for 2008-09 due to the phone-call scandal under former coach Kelvin Sampson. Indiana still is awaiting the NCAA's decision on the allegations against Sampson.
Crean has eight scholarship players available for the upcoming season. He also has a transfer who has to sit out a year and will be eligible in 2009-10. That counts as nine scholarships for 2008-09 and leaves the Hoosiers with one available.
Entire article: Afraid of Academic Progress Rate report, Hoosiers give up two scholarships - NCAA Division I Mens Basketball - CBSSports.com Live Scores, Standings, Stats
Big deal, IU only has 9 schlorship players for 2008/2009 anyay.
INDIANAPOLIS -- Indiana will give up two basketball scholarships for the upcoming season in anticipation of penalties related to the NCAA's Academic Progress Rate, assistant athletic director Frank Cuervo confirmed Wednesday.
The APR is a percentage score over a rolling four-year period that measures retention and eligibility of players. Teams can lose scholarships if their score is subpar and they have a player who left school early and would not have been academically eligible had he remained.
University officials don't comment on players' academic standing due to privacy laws, but coach Tom Crean has said he "inherited a tremendous amount of dysfunction."
School spokesman J.D. Campbell told the Indianapolis Star for a story on its website that the move is related to the number of players who have left since the end of the 2007-08 season. Eric Gordon went to the NBA. Brandon McGee, DeAndre Thomas, Armon Bassett and Jamarcus Ellis were dismissed from the team, and Eli Holman and Jordan Crawford left the program.
Campbell did not immediately return phone calls from the Associated Press for additional comment.
But Cuervo said it wasn't that simple.
"It's not necessarily about one issue," said Cuervo. "It's obviously related to the APR score. In terms of reasons, it's not necessarily due to just players leaving.
Indiana already has given up one scholarship for 2008-09 due to the phone-call scandal under former coach Kelvin Sampson. Indiana still is awaiting the NCAA's decision on the allegations against Sampson.
Crean has eight scholarship players available for the upcoming season. He also has a transfer who has to sit out a year and will be eligible in 2009-10. That counts as nine scholarships for 2008-09 and leaves the Hoosiers with one available.
Entire article: Afraid of Academic Progress Rate report, Hoosiers give up two scholarships - NCAA Division I Mens Basketball - CBSSports.com Live Scores, Standings, Stats
Big deal, IU only has 9 schlorship players for 2008/2009 anyay.
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the bomb doors are open over Bloomington
if the NCAA doesn't come down very hard on IU then something is really missing in the fairness here. IU hired a coach that they knew had severe baggage and watched as he lured Illinois' prize recruit away while everyone outside of Bloomington was stating that it was Sampson up to his old tricks. Shame on IU for standing by and not even trying to monitor the situation.
Greenspan was obviously a disaster of an AD, but the President could have let him go years ago. The entire IU Administration is to blame for this.
Now to hear about significant academic shortcomings simply confirms what so many have said about IU post-Knight.......they have fallen hard and fast in nearly every way imagineable.
They will be damn lucky if they don't lose 2 schollies each for the 2009/2010 plus 2010/2011
if the NCAA doesn't come down very hard on IU then something is really missing in the fairness here. IU hired a coach that they knew had severe baggage and watched as he lured Illinois' prize recruit away while everyone outside of Bloomington was stating that it was Sampson up to his old tricks. Shame on IU for standing by and not even trying to monitor the situation.
Greenspan was obviously a disaster of an AD, but the President could have let him go years ago. The entire IU Administration is to blame for this.
Now to hear about significant academic shortcomings simply confirms what so many have said about IU post-Knight.......they have fallen hard and fast in nearly every way imagineable.
They will be damn lucky if they don't lose 2 schollies each for the 2009/2010 plus 2010/2011
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LitlBuck
Kevin Warren is an ass
I have no idea what the NCAA is going to do to Indiana. They only have one scholarship available for the 08-09 season so if they took that scholarship away from them it really would be no big deal. So it is not like they would be penalized for the 2008-09 season. Even if one of the sanctions were that they could not play in the NCAA tournament it wouldn't be any big deal because they don't have much of the team this year and probably would not qualify anyhow. It will be interesting to see if they take the sanctions into the 09-10 season.
I wonder if Crean knew the mess he was reading getting into when he accepted that job.
I wonder if Crean knew the mess he was reading getting into when he accepted that job.
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Taber reflects on mass exodus at Indiana
Kyle Taber was literally The Last Man Standing.
The Indiana forward couldn't believe what was unfolding in front of his eyes. His dream was always to be a Hoosier while growing up a couple hours away in Evansville, Ind.
After redshirting as a walk-on back in 2004, Taber barely played his freshman and sophomore seasons before being rewarded by head coach Kelvin Sampson with a scholarship prior to last season.
It was a dream come true for Taber.
Then the dominos started to fall and it quickly became a nightmare.
Kelvin Sampson was, for all intents and purposes, fired in the middle of the season. What followed was a mini player revolt. The Hoosiers, with a pair of first-round draft picks, absolutely tanked down the stretch and were knocked out in the first round of the NCAA tournament.
Then the mass exodus began.
D.J. White, Lance Stemler and Mike White were all seniors and it was a given that Eric Gordon would bolt to the NBA after one season in Bloomington.
However, no one figured that Taber would be the lone holdover from the soap opera that was IU basketball a year ago.
Interim coach Dan Dakich booted sophomore Armon Bassett and junior Jamarcus Ellis off the team and Tom Crean upheld those decisions after he was hired.
Two top recruits, including top-10 player Devin Ebanks, were released from their letter-of-intents and opted to go elsewhere.
Crean then kicked DeAndre Thomas and Brandon McGee off the team and the departure of Eli Holman followed in a wacky scene, which the new Hoosiers coach believed was orchestrated.
When Jordan Crawford decided to leave on June 11, Taber became teammate-less.
There was not another scholarship player left from last year's squad. What a year, huh?
"Every day we didn't know what to expect," Taber said. "Coming into the season, we had such high expectations and then at the beginning of February, it all started to fall apart and we never knew what the day held for us."
Taber had an idea that Sampson wouldn't make it through the season when the speculation started to build about him making illegal phone calls ? again.
But he never figured it would all spiral downward so quickly and he'd have no one left by his side.
Taber would neither confirm nor deny the drug issues that were rampant through the program last season, but he did acknowledge that there were numerous issues which plagued the team. "I knew some changes would be made, because we had our problems last year," Taber said. "We all got along, but we had too many off-court problems that kept us from being a complete team."
Entire article: FOX Sports on MSN - COLLEGE BASKETBALL - Taber reflects on mass exodus at Indiana
Kyle Taber was literally The Last Man Standing.
The Indiana forward couldn't believe what was unfolding in front of his eyes. His dream was always to be a Hoosier while growing up a couple hours away in Evansville, Ind.
After redshirting as a walk-on back in 2004, Taber barely played his freshman and sophomore seasons before being rewarded by head coach Kelvin Sampson with a scholarship prior to last season.
It was a dream come true for Taber.
Then the dominos started to fall and it quickly became a nightmare.
Kelvin Sampson was, for all intents and purposes, fired in the middle of the season. What followed was a mini player revolt. The Hoosiers, with a pair of first-round draft picks, absolutely tanked down the stretch and were knocked out in the first round of the NCAA tournament.
Then the mass exodus began.
D.J. White, Lance Stemler and Mike White were all seniors and it was a given that Eric Gordon would bolt to the NBA after one season in Bloomington.
However, no one figured that Taber would be the lone holdover from the soap opera that was IU basketball a year ago.
Interim coach Dan Dakich booted sophomore Armon Bassett and junior Jamarcus Ellis off the team and Tom Crean upheld those decisions after he was hired.
Two top recruits, including top-10 player Devin Ebanks, were released from their letter-of-intents and opted to go elsewhere.
Crean then kicked DeAndre Thomas and Brandon McGee off the team and the departure of Eli Holman followed in a wacky scene, which the new Hoosiers coach believed was orchestrated.
When Jordan Crawford decided to leave on June 11, Taber became teammate-less.
There was not another scholarship player left from last year's squad. What a year, huh?
"Every day we didn't know what to expect," Taber said. "Coming into the season, we had such high expectations and then at the beginning of February, it all started to fall apart and we never knew what the day held for us."
Taber had an idea that Sampson wouldn't make it through the season when the speculation started to build about him making illegal phone calls ? again.
But he never figured it would all spiral downward so quickly and he'd have no one left by his side.
Taber would neither confirm nor deny the drug issues that were rampant through the program last season, but he did acknowledge that there were numerous issues which plagued the team. "I knew some changes would be made, because we had our problems last year," Taber said. "We all got along, but we had too many off-court problems that kept us from being a complete team."
Entire article: FOX Sports on MSN - COLLEGE BASKETBALL - Taber reflects on mass exodus at Indiana
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Crean moves on, despite repressive restrictions
Perhaps the most important month on the basketball recruiting calendar begins today. Coaches can begin making the rounds of the big-time summer basketball tournaments and get a first-hand look at all the blue-chip prospects who will someday become available.
Except for IU's Tom Crean, who is being sent into the recruiting wars with a bow
and arrow and a can of Mace.
While every other coach has 20 full days to recruit during this period, as per NCAA guidelines, Crean will have only seven. (He was given back 10 days after Kelvin Sampson and Dan Dakich used all 14 that were available after sanctions, but Crean already used three this recruiting period.)
While every other coach will have three of his assistants on the road, Crean will have two: Tim Buckley and Bennie Seltzer. He lost his third coach's days when former assistant Rob Senderoff was sanctioned by the university.
And lest we forget, Crean has now lost three scholarships for 2008-09; one was lost as a penalty against Sampson, and two more were lost when IU pre-emptively penalized itself in anticipation of a dreadful APR (Academic Progress Report) number.
Did I mention that Crean is allowed to host only two recruits on official visits? IU penalized Sampson, reducing the visits from 12 to six. Sampson used all six, and Crean was given only two back.
Forget Rick Greenspan's book. Crean is going to write one titled "How To Rebuild A Broken Program With Two Hands Tied Behind Your Back.''
"We're under such harsh penalties imposed inside, by Indiana,'' Crean said this week. "I've got to figure out how to do seven days (of off-campus recruiting trips). Losing phone calls, that's one thing; people are able to call you and there's e-mails and letters. But when you lose recruiting days, that's a competitive disadvantage.
"You factor in the seven days, we have only two coaches on the road (instead of three), that's reality and I have to live it every day. I'm not trying to whine, but I'll be honest, when I took this job, these kinds of things gave me pause.''
And it could get worse. A couple of weeks from now, the NCAA Committee on Infractions will rule on the latest round of Sampson-inspired missteps, although you wonder what the NCAA could do now that hasn't already been done.
At this point, additional NCAA penalties would be tantamount to piling on. Haven't the Hoosiers suffered enough? Haven't the Hoosiers been properly proactive about looking themselves in the mirror? We understand why the NCAA was unhappy when Sampson was hired in their backyard, and we understand that they didn't like hearing lies from the former head coach. But by now, the ones who will suffer most will be the people who had nothing to do with the Sampson fiasco.
And while IU royally screwed up by hiring Sampson -- the president, Dr. Michael McRobbie, acknowledged as much during last month's NCAA hearing -- the self-imposed sanctions have been more than harsh. At some point, the self-flagellation has to stop, and the school has to give the new coaches and players half a chance to succeed.
Entire article: Bob Kravitz: Crean moves on, despite repressive restrictions | IndyStar.com | The Indianapolis Star
Perhaps the most important month on the basketball recruiting calendar begins today. Coaches can begin making the rounds of the big-time summer basketball tournaments and get a first-hand look at all the blue-chip prospects who will someday become available.
Except for IU's Tom Crean, who is being sent into the recruiting wars with a bow
and arrow and a can of Mace.
While every other coach has 20 full days to recruit during this period, as per NCAA guidelines, Crean will have only seven. (He was given back 10 days after Kelvin Sampson and Dan Dakich used all 14 that were available after sanctions, but Crean already used three this recruiting period.)
While every other coach will have three of his assistants on the road, Crean will have two: Tim Buckley and Bennie Seltzer. He lost his third coach's days when former assistant Rob Senderoff was sanctioned by the university.
And lest we forget, Crean has now lost three scholarships for 2008-09; one was lost as a penalty against Sampson, and two more were lost when IU pre-emptively penalized itself in anticipation of a dreadful APR (Academic Progress Report) number.
Did I mention that Crean is allowed to host only two recruits on official visits? IU penalized Sampson, reducing the visits from 12 to six. Sampson used all six, and Crean was given only two back.
Forget Rick Greenspan's book. Crean is going to write one titled "How To Rebuild A Broken Program With Two Hands Tied Behind Your Back.''
"We're under such harsh penalties imposed inside, by Indiana,'' Crean said this week. "I've got to figure out how to do seven days (of off-campus recruiting trips). Losing phone calls, that's one thing; people are able to call you and there's e-mails and letters. But when you lose recruiting days, that's a competitive disadvantage.
"You factor in the seven days, we have only two coaches on the road (instead of three), that's reality and I have to live it every day. I'm not trying to whine, but I'll be honest, when I took this job, these kinds of things gave me pause.''
And it could get worse. A couple of weeks from now, the NCAA Committee on Infractions will rule on the latest round of Sampson-inspired missteps, although you wonder what the NCAA could do now that hasn't already been done.
At this point, additional NCAA penalties would be tantamount to piling on. Haven't the Hoosiers suffered enough? Haven't the Hoosiers been properly proactive about looking themselves in the mirror? We understand why the NCAA was unhappy when Sampson was hired in their backyard, and we understand that they didn't like hearing lies from the former head coach. But by now, the ones who will suffer most will be the people who had nothing to do with the Sampson fiasco.
And while IU royally screwed up by hiring Sampson -- the president, Dr. Michael McRobbie, acknowledged as much during last month's NCAA hearing -- the self-imposed sanctions have been more than harsh. At some point, the self-flagellation has to stop, and the school has to give the new coaches and players half a chance to succeed.
Entire article: Bob Kravitz: Crean moves on, despite repressive restrictions | IndyStar.com | The Indianapolis Star
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