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NCAA Coaches: Bribing Players

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OHSportsFan said:
Nah, my hatred of the NCAA is pretty long standing.

Even the field, find a way to pay kids. Those that go beyond that (likely the Dukes, UKs, KUs) should get punished.
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I haven't seen any way to do that through universities without violating Title IX, though I'm not too clear on the details of getting rid of athletic scholarships and making players employees.

If we're going to stick with the "student-athlete", "the $100k scholarship is their payment!!!" bullshit, I don't think the NCAA should handle anything other than university employees giving impermissible benefits and academic fraud. Either way, I could not give a fuck about boosters, shoes companies, tattoo artists, or runningbacks selling scarves or whatever on Etsy. If Phil Knight wants to offer 5-star Terrelle Pryor $1M/year to play for Oregon and Terrelle Pryor wants to take it, good for them.
 
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Systems_id said:
You saying this already doesn't happen?:lol:

Personally I'm all for allowing college athletes to take money from whoever is offering.
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This is a massive pandora's box. I understand the FEELING behind it, but if it goes wrong you could destroy the game's popularity entirely. If it stops drawing fans the money dries up and then all of those thousands of kids getting scholarships are now out of luck. Worries me where this well intentioned road may lead us.
 
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BuckeyeSoldier said:
This is a massive pandora's box. I understand the FEELING behind it, but if it goes wrong you could destroy the game's popularity entirely. If it stops drawing fans the money dries up and then all of those thousands of kids getting scholarships are now out of luck. Worries me where this well intentioned road may lead us.
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There's also the matter of what it does to the funding of the more legitimate student athletes in non revenue sports.
 
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OhioState001 said:
I'd be more willing to say athletes should be able to profit from their likeness. If they want to sell shirts with their names on it or sign autographs for money, that's different then just being handed a check for 10k.
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Hey Johnny Quarterback, all of our other quarterbacks have revenue streams setup. That other school might give you a signing bonus but they can't compete with our regularly installed revenue streams.

That's the problem. Of course, that's already happening now, just under the table.
 
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jwinslow said:
Hey Johnny Quarterback, all of our other quarterbacks have revenue streams setup. That other school might give you a signing bonus but they can't compete with our regularly installed revenue streams.

That's the problem. Of course, that's already happening now, just under the table.
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Yea at least the players will be able to earn money based on their individual talent though. No one is going to be buying Joe Burrow t-shirts, sure he might make some money signing autographs or something, but JT Barrett who has contributed immensely to the Ohio State program is going to be able to make a lot of money. That seems somewhat fair.
 
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OhioState001 said:
Yea at least the players will be able to earn money based on their individual talent though. No one is going to be buying Joe Burrow t-shirts, sure he might make some money signing autographs or something, but JT Barrett who has contributed immensely to the Ohio State program is going to be able to make a lot of money. That seems somewhat fair.
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That's what JT Barrett should be able to do (because he's about to lose 99% of his marketability, and he had far more than almost all of his teammates).

There's a lot of things that should happen for athletes that are exploited, but when you try to fix it, you risk breaking the gravy train for everyone.

The problem is that if you make endorsements legal, even seemingly real ones like t-shirts, now you can orchestrate events where there are a few headliners mixed in with regular guys and everyone gets paid. Or boosters buy up shirts independent of whether they like the 4th string TE or not, and that's the new way to funnel cash to them.

And all of that is used on signing day if not set up secretly. And can you try to manage that? I suppose but it's not working very well now when all such gifts are illegal (they're still rampant). Make them legal but limit them subjectively on what's permissable and what's sketchy?
 
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OHIO STATE NOT NAMED IN LATEST COLLEGE BASKETBALL RECRUITING BOMBSHELL REPORT FROM YAHOO SPORTS

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Yahoo Sports released a lengthy report on Friday detailing possible recruiting violations for at least 20 division I men's basketball programs – Ohio State was not mentioned in the report.

The report mentions a number of premier programs including Duke, Kentucky, Kansas and North Carolina, Xavier and features two Big Ten Schools: Michigan State and Maryland.

The timing of this report could cause a number of eligibility issues as we head into the NCAA Tournament as it features some of the nation's top players including Michigan State's Miles Bridges, Alabama's Collin Sexton and Duke’s Wendell Carter.

From Yahoo! Sports:

The documents tie some of the biggest names and programs in the sport to activity that appears to violate the NCAA’s amateurism rules. This could end up casting a pall over the NCAA tournament because of eligibility issues. There’s potential impermissible benefits and preferential treatment for players and families of players at Duke, North Carolina, Texas, Kentucky, Michigan State, USC, Alabama and a host of other schools. The documents link some of the sport’s biggest current stars – Michigan State’s Miles Bridges, Alabama’s Collin Sexton and Duke’s Wendell Carter – to specific potential extra benefits for either the athletes or their family members. The amounts tied to players in the case range from basic meals to tens of thousands of dollars.

NCAA president Mark Emmert released a statement Friday morning to address the latest developments in the corruption probe.

“These allegations, if true, point to systematic failures that must be fixed and fixed now if we want college sports in America. Simply put, people who engage in this kind of behavior have no place in college sports. They are an affront to all those who play by the rules,” the statement read. “Following the Southern District of New York’s indictments last year, the NCAA Board of Governors and I formed the independent Commission on College Basketball, chaired by Condoleezza Rice, to provide recommendations on how to clean up the sport. With these latest allegations, it’s clear this work is more important now than ever. The Board and I are completely committed to making transformational changes to the game and ensuring all involved in college basketball do so with integrity. We also will continue to cooperate with the efforts of federal prosecutors to identify and punish the unscrupulous parties seeking to exploit the system through criminal acts.”

Of course, Ohio State's absence from this report does not necessarily mean the program is completely absolved from any recruiting wrongdoings, but it is good news.

Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...recruiting-bombshell-report-from-yahoo-sports



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