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NCAA Basketball Investigation/Lawsuit Thread (merged)

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Three years probation sounds bad, but the penalties are what's been expected for some time. Taking down banners, returning revenue, etc., but no postseason ban is the important aspect.

However, 3 years probation makes it seem odd that O'Brien won his lawsuit, doesn't it? If he receives anything more than what his salary would have been for the past 2 years, it would be ridiculously unjust.

But the nightmare of waiting for the investigation to end is finally over. It's time to focus on the Big 10 and NCAA tournaments.

Go Bucks!!
 
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While im grateful that there is no further postseason ban, its still a harsh penalty compared to what UM got for the worst violation in NCAA sports history. I think they had to clear the record for the fab five year(s), around 1989(when Chris Webber called the phantom time out to lose the championship) and they got a 1 maybe 2 year postseason ban. However, considering that those players recieved over HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of $$$ in a "money laundering-esque" scheme, I think 3 years probation and over $800,000 for OSU is way too harsh.
 
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44820 is like lightning with these merges. :biggrin:
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I try. :wink2:


Three years probation sounds bad, but the penalties are what's been expected for some time. Taking down banners, returning revenue, etc., but no postseason ban is the important aspect.

However, 3 years probation makes it seem odd that O'Brien won his lawsuit, doesn't it? If he receives anything more than what his salary would have been for the past 2 years, it would be ridiculously unjust.

But the nightmare of waiting for the investigation to end is finally over. It's time to focus on the Big 10 and NCAA tournaments.

Go Bucks!!
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BB73, good post.........I just wanted to add that now the KEY is to ensure future prospects understand what this probation means in the future.

I think I speak for all of us when I say.....finally we can move forward and look towards this Big Ten tourney and the NCAAs...
 
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Here is a breakdown of the sanctions....

The committee adopted a number of penalties that were self-imposed by the institution, which the committee described as "meaningful and appropriate" in its public infractions report. The full list of penalties is as follows, with self-imposed penalties noted:
  • Public reprimand and censure.
  • Three years probation from March 10, 2006, through March 9, 2009.
  • The institution's men's basketball team was withheld from postseason competition following the 2004-05 season. (University self-imposed)
  • The former head coach was terminated by Ohio State on June 8, 2004. (University self-imposed)
  • The number of financial aid awards in men's basketball was reduced from 13 to 11 during the 2005-06 season. (University self-imposed)
  • The number of expense-paid visits recruits may make to the campus is limited to three during the 2006-07 academic year. This is a reduction of one from the average of four visits per year during the last four years.
  • The football student-athlete was withheld from a 2004 bowl game (University self-imposed). He was also withheld from the first game of the 2005 season when he went through the NCAA student-athlete reinstatement process.
  • The institution must reimburse monies received for participation in the 1999, 2000, 2001 and 2002 NCAA Division I Men's Basketball Tournament.
  • The NCAA tournament records of the men's basketball team and individual record of the ineligible student-athlete are vacated for the 1999, 2000, 2001 and 2002 tournaments.
  • A copy of this report will be sent to the institution's regional accrediting agency.
  • The institution disassociated itself from five representatives of athletics interest in 2005. (University self-imposed)
  • The former head coach was given a five-year show cause penalty until March 9, 2011.
  • The former assistant coach was given a show cause penalty until October 1, 2007.
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In case you want yet another article, this one is very straight forward:

Rivals.com (free)


The Ohio State men's basketball team learned its NCAA fate today, getting three years of probation due to the investigation into former head coach Jim O'Brien's program.

In the end, the Buckeyes will have to return postseason money earned during the career of Slobodan "Boban" Savovic and forfeit games during that time, but evidently last year's self-imposed postseason ban was enough for the NCAA. There will be no further postseason sanctions.

Here is the news straight from the NCAA:

• The Ohio State men's basketball program has been placed on three years probation and penalized former head coach Jim O'Brien and former assistant coach Paul Biancardi for violations in the sport of men's basketball.

• The NCAA Committee on Infractions also found that the scope and nature of the violations constituted a failure of the institution and former head coach to monitor the men's basketball program.

• The number of expense-paid visits recruits may make to the campus is limited to three during the 2006-07 academic year. This is a reduction of one from the average of four visits per year during the last four years.

• The institution must reimburse monies received for participation in the 1999, 2000, 2001 and 2002 NCAA Division I Men's Basketball Tournament.

• The NCAA tournament records of the men's basketball team and individual record of the ineligible student-athlete are vacated for the 1999, 2000, 2001 and 2002 tournaments.

Also:

• O'Brien has been slapped with a five-year show cause penalty. Should O'Brien seek athletically related employment with another NCAA institution, he and the hiring institution must appear before the Committee on Infractions to determine whether his duties should be limited.

• Biancardi, who is now a head coach at Wright State, is prohibited by the Committee on Infractions from recruiting until Oct. 1, 2007. If his current institution does not enforce this prohibition, the committee would require the institution to appear before the committee and show cause why additional penalties should not be imposed against that institution.

Talk about it in: The Horseshoe Lounge
 
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MoneyMike said:
While im grateful that there is no further postseason ban, its still a harsh penalty compared to what UM got for the worst violation in NCAA sports history. I think they had to clear the record for the fab five year(s), around 1989(when Chris Webber called the phantom time out to lose the championship) and they got a 1 maybe 2 year postseason ban. However, considering that those players recieved over HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of $$$ in a "money laundering-esque" scheme, I think 3 years probation and over $800,000 for OSU is way too harsh.
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Since we're taking down the 1999 Final Four banners, can we put up some banners for the year we lost to scUM in the Elite 8? I mean after all, they've forfeited that game and so we should have been in the Final Four. Leave the banners up there, just change the year. :biggrin:
 
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I am hearing that their is a possibility that only the NCAA record of the 1999, 2000, 2001 and 2002 seasons would be wiped cleaned. Meaning the tournaments and final four are gone but that the regular season records would still remain, meaning the 2 Big Ten championships and the Big Ten tournament championship would not be effected.

Once again, nothing official, just something that came down the pipeline...
 
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The 'show cause' against O'Brien is interesting. I almost wonder if OSU asked for this one. I would think this would be helpful in any appeals of the original decision or the determinatio of damages.
 
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The financial cost of paying back 90% of NCAA tournament revenue from 1999-2002 is said to be about $800,000.

Gene Smith, live on ESPN, just said (to my recollection):

"We always act as if we're under probation, but it is a stigma to the University".
 
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Since we're taking down the 1999 Final Four banners, can we put up some banners for the year we lost to scUM in the Elite 8? I mean after all, they've forfeited that game and so we should have been in the Final Four. Leave the banners up there, just change the year. :biggrin:
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I was thinking the same thing. :wink2:
 
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Apologies if I missed this somewhere, and I support Geiger's action in self-imposing last year's post-season ban regardless, but did the NCAA indicate that it would have imposed a post-season ban this year if OSU hadn't self-imposed one last year?
 
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