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OSUBasketballJunkie
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Most insiders believe an official announcement will come in the next few days....
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I think Mus and Lavin are both in the sauce though, take anything with a grain of salt. They were just entertaining themselves with a discussion of a 4 man with a hand gun. 
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MoneyMike
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Yea so im just skipping school for the announcement at 11 and then the game, any last thoughts and what the ruling will be? Personally, since its really pretty low profile(most people here in MI dont even know about it) im thinking the NCAA will let us go pretty easily. Hopefully...
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OSUBasketballJunkie
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Official announcement at 11:00 am this morning, tOSU will hold a PC after. The timing is not great in my opinion, just an hour prior to tOSU playing in the Big Ten tourney, but at least we can have some closure on this matter.
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Indy Star
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March 10, 2006
No postseason ban for Ohio State
By Jeff Rabjohns
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The Ohio State men's basketball program is not expected to receive a postseason ban when the NCAA announces penalties this morning, according to a person familiar with the situation. No postseason ban eliminates the uncertainty surrounding the Greg Oden-led recruiting class that is considered one of the best in the nation and in school history. When the high school players signed in November, Ohio State sent letters to the players saying it would release them if there was a postseason ban in 2007.
The NCAA is scheduled to announce sanctions at 11 a.m. today, one hour before the Big Ten champion Buckeyes face Penn State in the quarterfinals of the Big Ten Tournament.
The Buckeyes, who are being penalized for violations committed under former coach Jim O'Brien, issued a self-imposed ban for the 2005 postseason.
The heralded recruiting class includes Oden, the reigning national high school Player of the Year, Lawrence North teammate Mike Conley, one of the nation's top-ranked point guards, and Daequan Cook and David Lighty of Ohio.
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March 10, 2006
No postseason ban for Ohio State
By Jeff Rabjohns
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The Ohio State men's basketball program is not expected to receive a postseason ban when the NCAA announces penalties this morning, according to a person familiar with the situation. No postseason ban eliminates the uncertainty surrounding the Greg Oden-led recruiting class that is considered one of the best in the nation and in school history. When the high school players signed in November, Ohio State sent letters to the players saying it would release them if there was a postseason ban in 2007.
The NCAA is scheduled to announce sanctions at 11 a.m. today, one hour before the Big Ten champion Buckeyes face Penn State in the quarterfinals of the Big Ten Tournament.
The Buckeyes, who are being penalized for violations committed under former coach Jim O'Brien, issued a self-imposed ban for the 2005 postseason.
The heralded recruiting class includes Oden, the reigning national high school Player of the Year, Lawrence North teammate Mike Conley, one of the nation's top-ranked point guards, and Daequan Cook and David Lighty of Ohio.
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ONN
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[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Report: Ohio State could owe nearly $800,000 in NCAA penalties[/FONT]
COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Ohio State could have to pay almost $800,000 for NCAA rules violations when the school's punishment is handed down Friday, athletic director Gene Smith said.
The NCAA set a telephone news conference for 11 a.m. Friday to announce Ohio State's penalties for nine violations, most of which involved the men's basketball program."If we have to pay back money, it'll probably be a little south of $800,000," Smith told WSYX-TV in Columbus on Thursday. "If that is a penalty that we have to face ... the athletic department will pay that out of our reserves and that obviously would hurt us significantly as well, so we'll just have to wait and see what they are."A message was left with Smith by The Associated Press earlier Thursday. Other school officials said they were not aware of any early indications from the NCAA about what the sanctions would be.NCAA officials declined to comment.Seven of the violations occurred under former basketball coach Jim O'Brien. The other two involved women's basketball and football.Ohio State spokesman Steve Snapp said the university will not have an official response to the NCAA ruling until after the top-seeded and seventh-ranked Buckeyes (23-4) play Penn State at noon in the quarterfinals of the Big Ten tournament at Conseco Fieldhouse in Indianapolis.Second-year coach Thad Matta said Tuesday that having the announcement behind the team will be a relief."Honestly, I'm so beaten down by this thing, it only makes sense it would come around here (now)," Matta said. "But I just honestly want to know when and what it is and finally from that point we can, for the first time at Ohio State, say, this is where we are. And move forward from there."Ohio State had agreed with NCAA investigators on eight of nine violations at a hearing last month. The school argued that it shouldn't be held liable for some violations because O'Brien made it impossible for athletic administrators to know about them.Ohio State fired O'Brien in 2004, six weeks after learning of his payment to a recruit and voluntarily banned itself from postseason play last year, trying to mitigate further penalties from the NCAA. The university also voluntarily reduced its men's basketball scholarships this season by two.
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[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Report: Ohio State could owe nearly $800,000 in NCAA penalties[/FONT]
COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Ohio State could have to pay almost $800,000 for NCAA rules violations when the school's punishment is handed down Friday, athletic director Gene Smith said.
The NCAA set a telephone news conference for 11 a.m. Friday to announce Ohio State's penalties for nine violations, most of which involved the men's basketball program."If we have to pay back money, it'll probably be a little south of $800,000," Smith told WSYX-TV in Columbus on Thursday. "If that is a penalty that we have to face ... the athletic department will pay that out of our reserves and that obviously would hurt us significantly as well, so we'll just have to wait and see what they are."A message was left with Smith by The Associated Press earlier Thursday. Other school officials said they were not aware of any early indications from the NCAA about what the sanctions would be.NCAA officials declined to comment.Seven of the violations occurred under former basketball coach Jim O'Brien. The other two involved women's basketball and football.Ohio State spokesman Steve Snapp said the university will not have an official response to the NCAA ruling until after the top-seeded and seventh-ranked Buckeyes (23-4) play Penn State at noon in the quarterfinals of the Big Ten tournament at Conseco Fieldhouse in Indianapolis.Second-year coach Thad Matta said Tuesday that having the announcement behind the team will be a relief."Honestly, I'm so beaten down by this thing, it only makes sense it would come around here (now)," Matta said. "But I just honestly want to know when and what it is and finally from that point we can, for the first time at Ohio State, say, this is where we are. And move forward from there."Ohio State had agreed with NCAA investigators on eight of nine violations at a hearing last month. The school argued that it shouldn't be held liable for some violations because O'Brien made it impossible for athletic administrators to know about them.Ohio State fired O'Brien in 2004, six weeks after learning of his payment to a recruit and voluntarily banned itself from postseason play last year, trying to mitigate further penalties from the NCAA. The university also voluntarily reduced its men's basketball scholarships this season by two.
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I do NOT expect ESPN to trash us as some folks expect. Clarett has been discredited. Totally. O'Brien has ended up looking slimy to many people. Ohio State has NC contenders coming up next year in football and one of the most exciting recruiting classes in the history of basketball.
It just isn't worth screwing up your relations with Ohio State if you are ESPN. I think we will rather see both former coaches and Clarett get the tarring and lots of "it's a shame these guys have to pay for their sins" stuff.
Implication to me: don't worry, it isn't coming back.
It just isn't worth screwing up your relations with Ohio State if you are ESPN. I think we will rather see both former coaches and Clarett get the tarring and lots of "it's a shame these guys have to pay for their sins" stuff.
Implication to me: don't worry, it isn't coming back.
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OSUBasketballJunkie
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Dispatch
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3/10/06
Going, going, gone?
Removing banners like shot in heart, coach says
Friday, March 10, 2006
Rob Oller
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH
JONATHAN QUILTER | DISPATCH The Ohio State men’s baskeball banners in the Scottenstein Center likely are soon to be minus several numbers after the NCAA releases its ruling today.
More than history will be affected if the NCAA penalizes Ohio State today by instructing the university to remove "1999" from men’s basketball banners in Value City Arena.
Woven through the fabric are the dreams of players from the 1999 Final Four team who worked hard to achieve their goals, former Ohio State assistant coach Dave Spiller said.
"You’re taking more than a banner down. For some of these kids, the hard work to get to that point . . . would be like taking a shotgun and shooting them in the heart," said Spiller, adding that the sense of accomplishment for players on the team that reached the NCAA Tournament semifinals in 1999 should not be treated as if that season never existed.
"They all worked for the dream of someday cutting down a net in the Final Four," said Spiller, who coached at OSU from 1997 to 2001 and now works as a recruiting coordinator at Ohio Sports Plus in Worthington. "That’s the purpose kids go to school and keep their grades up, so they can have that opportunity."
Former Buckeye Will Dudley, who played on the 1999 team, said it would be unfair to punish the entire team for the act of one or two individuals, but that removing banners and deleting records would not erase what happened that season.
"All that stuff we accomplished was on the court," said Dudley, a teacher and assistant boys basketball coach at Harvest Prep. "Even other coaches at other schools and teams we beat know that this stuff happens on the court, when the ball goes up in the air, that’s what decides those banners."
The Final Four banner likely would not be the only one to receive cosmetic surgery. The NCAA violations — that former coach Jim O’Brien gave cash to the mother of a recruit and that player Boban Savovic received improper benefits in the care of Kathleen Salyers of Gahanna — allegedly occurred during the four seasons (1998-99 to 2001-02) Savovic was on the team.
The Buckeyes won Big Ten regular-season titles in 2000 and 2002 and the Big Ten tournament title in 2002. The numbers on those banners likely would be removed, too.
Another condition of the punishment could be that OSU would vacate wins and losses during that stretch, which would put the team record at 0-0 each of those four seasons.
Instead of punishing former players by altering banners, Spiller suggested another course of action.
"Maybe make the school pay back some money and limit the amount of scholarships for a couple of years," he said.
Both of those scenarios could happen. Ohio State would likely have to repay earnings from its NCAA Tournament appearances. Athletics director Gene Smith last night confirmed estimates that the total would be about $800,000 in an interview with television station WSYX. The school also could face further loss of scholarships. The university-imposed penalties in 2004 included the loss of two scholarships this season.
An NCAA official, speaking on condition of anonymity, could not confirm whether OSU would lose more scholarships but explained that the penalty typically fits the crime.
"In cases where there is academic fraud, no, there would probably not be a loss of scholarships," the official said. "If you have a player who was ineligible, then maybe."
None of the NCAA allegations against Ohio State includes the participation of an ineligible player, but the organization does tend to penalize schools beyond just removing banners, erasing records and vacating wins and losses. It is doubtful Ohio State will face a postseason ban — the school already banned itself from postseason play in 2005 — but the trend is for the NCAA to be harder on a school than it was on itself.
Spiller hopes that’s not the case.
"You have to respect the NCAA, but hopefully the NCAA understands that what (the 1999 team) accomplished, those kids want to sit down with their own kids someday and see those records," he said.
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OSUBasketballJunkie
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Dispatch
3/10/06
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COMMENTARY
NCAA can erase records, but can’t erase memories
Friday, March 10, 2006
BOB HUNTER
ED REINKE | ASSOCIATED PRESS Coach Jim O’Brien holds the net after the Buckeyes won the NCAA South Regional championship on March 20, 1999.
So that 1999 Final Four never happened?
Really? Man, I’d swear Ohio State played Connecticut in the semifinals that year. If I were going to dream something up, couldn’t I do better than thousands of Buckeyes fans whooping it up in Tropicana Field?
The likelihood that the NCAA will have Ohio State wipe its 1999 basketball accomplishments from the rafters and the record books for rules violations has disoriented me a little. It still seems like that incredible Saturday in Knoxville, Tenn., the one when the Buckeyes beat St. John’s to qualify for the Final Four, is as real as the Purdue game Sunday. I can still picture Scoonie Penn sprinting around the floor like a lunatic when the game ended. I can still picture George Reese riding piggyback on Shamar Herron’s shoulders and Ken Johnson setting what must have been a tournament record for postgame tears.
It never happened? That’s weird.
I don’t know what to think of the NCAA possibly rewriting history because of coach Jim O’Brien’s $6,000 gift to a recruit’s needy parent and player Boban Savovic’s doting nanny.
Maybe I’ve read and watched too much science fiction. It just occurred to me that this is like a movie in which some poor sap discovers he never existed. He looks in an album and he’s no longer in the family photo at Niagara Falls. He runs to the fireplace to see if the high-school graduation photos of him and his three sisters are still hanging there, and finds his spot occupied by the family dog. He tries to find some trace of himself somewhere "they" didn’t think of — his high-school yearbook, the phone book, the address label on a magazine. But he’s gone. History. Kaput.
But when I checked my Ohio State media guide yesterday a few hours after we learned that the NCAA had notified the school of its punishment, there was the picture of the 1999 Buckeyes with "NCAA Final Four" under it. The Buckeyes’ names were still in my media guide from the 1999 tournament.
There’s still an Ohio State logo on a 1999 Final Four pin that lies with other memorabilia, a few pennies and some lint at the bottom of one of my desk drawers.
So it turns out that the NCAA is relying on all of us to just forget about it, or at least pretend that it didn’t happen. A few honest souls might do that, but it seems like a pretty inefficient system to me.
A lot has been said about how it was unfair that last year’s team wasn’t permitted to go to the NCAA Tournament because of infractions committed while some of the players were in junior high school. This memory-purging business isn’t exactly fair to the rule-abiding members of the 1999 team, either.
But then, punishing the right person in these situations is never easy. Rules were broken. Somebody has to pay. O’Brien? He has been fired. Athletics director Andy Geiger? Retired. Savovic? Now, we’re talking; he’s the one player who allegedly received improper benefits. So if anybody can find him, they should confiscate his Final Four hat and T-shirt just as quickly as possible.
Truthfully, given the lengths this situation was allowed to go, this is probably the best possible outcome for Ohio State. It would have been even more unfair to tell this year’s team that it couldn’t play in a postseason tournament, especially after it won an undisputed Big Ten title and might be in line for a No. 2 seed in the NCAA Tournament. And, if the penalties were allowed to carry over to next year, that would have sabotaged a recruiting class that had nothing to do with coaches who weren’t here at the time.
Besides, Michael Redd, Jason Singleton, Neshaun Coleman, Jon Sanderson and the rest know they made it there, and they sure aren’t going to voluntarily part with their memories just because the NCAA says they didn’t exist.
If I’m not mistaken, their joy was in the journey, not in some stupid banner.
That’s something the rule book monitors can never take away.
Bob Hunter is a sports columnist for The Dispatch
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