2021 NC APB Will Shipley (Clemson Verbal)

[pnuts34]

I do, but I think he's overrated, and I don't mean that to diminish him. HS football is decent in NC but, it's not elite HS football. His tape is against a lot of very average teams. I don't see what he does on a regular basis working at the college level.

I see and hear a lot of people locally comparing him Christian McCaffrey and I just don't see it. McCaffrey is unbelievable between the tackles and has much more lateral quickness. Shipley is good, but I think #26 overall and #1 APB is off the mark.

So if he's not McCaffrey, he must be more like Sam McGuffie

 

[billmac91]

Interesting, thanks for the breakdown. I hadn't watched his film all that closely. Do you think we got the best RB in NC with Pryor? I am beyond impressed with Pryor's film. Either way, can't be any more thrilled with our RB class, so even if Shipley pans out I don't think I can really muster any disappointment here.

I like Pryor much more between the tackles, and I think Henderson is on another level.

I’d certainly rather have the blend we got than just Shipley.

With what Day is installing, I’m not sure you’d have much use for Shipley, who is already being told by Clemson they see him as a “scat back” which I think is quite honest. We’ve seen McCall basically ride the bench and Jaelen Gill transfer, so I’m not sure Shipley would’ve been utilized well at OSU.

To be fair, and I’ve been slightly critical of it in regards to Day, he tends give RBs entire possessions....which is a bit odd. We could start at our own 5 yard line, and if Dobbins busted an 85 yard run and was gassed, he’d still stay in to finish drive. He’d do same with Teague in game.....they finished out the possessions they started. Day is much smarter than I am, and he said he prefers this because it doesn’t allow the defense to substitute so I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt, but what it does is marginalize “specialty or gadget” backs because we rarely substitute RBs on a given drive as to exploit the defense we see on the field.

Clemson doesn’t play nearly as uptempo and they regularly huddle, so they do substitute a good deal more. It makes sense to me that they would be able to more effectively utilize Shipley and sell him on being utilized as a “scat back”.

 

[sparcboxbuck]

I like Pryor much more between the tackles, and I think Henderson is on another level.

I’d certainly rather have the blend we got than just Shipley.

With what Day is installing, I’m not sure you’d have much use for Shipley, who is already being told by Clemson they see him as a “scat back” which I think is quite honest. We’ve seen McCall basically ride the bench and Jaelen Gill transfer, so I’m not sure Shipley would’ve been utilized well at OSU.

To be fair, and I’ve been slightly critical of it in regards to Day, he tends give RBs entire possessions....which is a bit odd. We could start at our own 5 yard line, and if Dobbins busted an 85 yard run and was gassed, he’d still stay in to finish drive. He’d do same with Teague in game.....they finished out the possessions they started. Day is much smarter than I am, and he said he prefers this because it doesn’t allow the defense to substitute so I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt, but what it does is marginalize “specialty or gadget” backs because we rarely substitute RBs on a given drive as to exploit the defense we see on the field.

Clemson doesn’t play nearly as uptempo and they regularly huddle, so they do substitute a good deal more. It makes sense to me that they would be able to more effectively utilize Shipley and sell him on being utilized as a “scat back”.

Word from Weddington (my nephew is friendly with him) is that he loved tOSU but was being recruited as a slot receiver and he wanted to be a tailback. I find it interesting that they plan on using him as a scat back. I like is film, but obviously question the competition that he’s seeing in NC relative to other places. Anyhow, he may have some shake and bake, but what I’ve seen is one move and go.

Good luck to him in Dabo’s Choir. But I don’t know that there’s a lot of room to be a feature back if you’re largely a scat back role. We’ll see, I guess.