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NBA Finals - Celtics vs. Lakers

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tonystarx;1183350; said:
It isn't over just yet. There's a first time for everything. A team has come back from 3-1 before, just not in the Finals yet. But the tale of the tape heavily favors Boston to end this one within the next two games. Think about it...
1. They've owned the 3rd quarter of every game so far. 2. The Lakers only won by 6 while the Big 3 played their worst game of the series to date. 3. L.A.'s big men are playing like pussys (Gasol especially). 4. Boston is a more complete team. 5. Kobe has tried the selfish approach and barely won, 6. then he played the role of distributor for a half and they blew a 24-point lead.
As much as I hate to say this, stick a fork in the Lakers.
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you make some good points....i really feel like the games against the cavs and pistons came back and helped boston in that situation last night
 
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What a collapse being up 24 points. I am disgusted with LA. Boston deserves the championship, which LA doesn't have anybody to balme but themselves.
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Kobe will blame everyone but himself....he especially likes to blame officials.....

Dispatch

Storied Celtics add a chapter
Boston comes back from 24-point deficit
Friday, June 13, 2008 3:10 AM
By Tom Withers


Associated Press
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Mark J. Terrill Associated Press
Lakers forward Pau Gasol celebrates his dunk during the first half of last night's game.

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Mark Avery Associated Press
Kobe Bryant passes the ball off as he's defended by Kevin Garnett. Bryant was held to 17 points on 6-of-19 shooting.



LOS ANGELES -- In their comeback season, the Celtics saved the biggest one of all for the NBA Finals.
Boston rallied from a 24-point deficit and beat the Los Angeles Lakers 97-91 last night to take a commanding 3-1 lead in this history-rich series and move within one victory of a 17th championship that seemed impossible a year ago.
A rivalry between the league's two most storied franchises -- with some of the game's biggest names and biggest moments -- now has its biggest rally.
No team had ever overcome more than a 15-point deficit in the first quarter, and although the league doesn't have a record for the largest rally in a finals game, the Celtics staged one that will forever be remembered in the annals of Celtics-Lakers lore.
When the final horn sounded, Paul Pierce, an L.A. kid playing in front of family and friends, doubled over in exhaustion and exuberance. The Celtics, the team he stuck with through 10 years, including a 24-win season in 2006-07, had done the impossible.
"We sucked it up," Pierce said. "We said we weren't going to back down.

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Yahoo!

No quit in Pierce

By Dan Wetzel, Yahoo! Sports 9 hours, 33 minutes ago

LOS ANGELES ? At halftime of a pending disaster, with his offensive game seemingly left back in Boston and the NBA Finals on the verge of being squared up at two games apiece, Paul Pierce asked his coach for the toughest assignment in the NBA.
?I want Kobe,? he told Doc Rivers. ?Give me Kobe.?
If the Boston Celtics were going to storm back from a 24-point deficit and move to the brink of their 17th NBA championship, then it would need two of the things Pierce has never been famous for ? defense and leadership.
For 10 seasons he?s always been a scorer. Now with that even failing him, he went with trying to be a champion.
So he asked to guard Kobe Bryant, the dangerous Los Angeles Lakers scorer. The locker room was stunned. Yes, this is a prideful defensive team where guys make these kinds of requests, but he wants Kobe? Nobody wants Kobe. Certainly not when the game was all but lost anyway.
?That got everybody hyped up,? said Leon Powe.

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billmac91;1183176; said:
I agree with your premise that Posey and House stepped up big when they had too, but the call against Kobe on Paul essentially ended the game.
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That's a convenient way to completely overlook the fact that Boston dominated the second half even more than LA did so in the first half.

It is also the type of thinking that leads to conspiracy theories about refs in the tinfoil hat crowd. You aren't calling it a conspiracy - please don't misunderstand me - but the tinfoil hat crowd latches onto comments like the one you made, above. One "flop" decided the game. Nothing else mattered. Viva la conspiracy.
 
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Jake;1183506; said:
That's a convenient way to completely overlook the fact that Boston dominated the second half even more than LA did so in the first half.

It is also the type of thinking that leads to conspiracy theories about refs in the tinfoil hat crowd. You aren't calling it a conspiracy - please don't misunderstand me - but the tinfoil hat crowd latches onto comments like the one you made, above. One "flop" decided the game. Nothing else mattered. Viva la conspiracy.
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I can blame one flop? Cool, because I have gone numb blaming the epic choke job the Lakers performed in the third quarter.

Fucking floppers always floppin and shit.

Really, as I see it there's so many things that went right and wrong in that game.

First off, for the Lakers, came out aggressive, jumped on the Celtics and had them reeling. Everyone was driving the paint, Gasol was dunking with two hands so if KG decided to try and block he could overpower him, all looked well.

Then the second quarter, the Lakers became less and less aggressive, and the Celtics win the second quarter.

Then, well, the Lakers went into the toilet, the Celtics got hope. Boston put some serious defensive pressure, and the Lakers decided to try for outside shots.

Fourth quarter, Kobe and Pierce was pretty much the game, Pierce locked Kobe down, I am guessing he was a bit tired from Tuesday, but I don't know, so I am not going to try and make that excuse, Pierce locked down Kobe.

Some huge questions for me are "What the hell was Farmar doing out there instead of Fisher?" "Where did Lamar Odom go in the second half?" and "Why did we change our defensive strategy? Going man on man was working fine for us, yet in the second half we started going back to the double team"
 
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espn.com

For Garnett and Gasol, Game 4 told the tale

By J.A. Adande
ESPN.com
(Archive)

Updated: June 13, 2008

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Trade imbalance: Of the new acquisitions, Kevin Garnett has given his team more than Pau Gasol.

LOS ANGELES -- There's a reason the Celtics succeeded in Game 4 whereas the Lakers failed in Game 2 in the historic task of coming back from a 24-point deficit in the NBA Finals. That difference was personified when Pau Gasol checked back in with 6:06 remaining in the fourth quarter Thursday. The most important moments of the year call for great defensive play. The Lakers aren't equipped to do that.
The final half of the game's final quarter was a referendum on the two landscape-changing trades of the past 12 months. The two individuals who brought renewed hope to their franchises were both on the court, with the tenor of the Finals hanging in the balance. It would be a brand-new series, all squared at two, or the only remaining detail would be the date of the parade in Boston.
The Lakers got this far because of the added dimension Gasol brought to their offense as a skilled shooter and deft passer who made the Lakers a threat from every position on the court. He has become even more critical to the Lakers' identity because the Celtics' defense has kept Bryant from dominating in every game except the third one.

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OCBucksFan;1183519; said:
This was disturbing... I understand being emotional, but...

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I am not a fan of Vujacic, but that is the type of emotion I would like to see out of a player on one of my teams...

BTW WTF was the dude trying to console him for...

Here let me give you a shoulder rub after you just got your ass schooled...
 
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