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More Discussion on Marijuana (Merged with Skeete thread discussion)

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I used to blaze just about every day for roughly 18 months. Like anything else done in excess, it had certain adverse effects on my life. To the best of my knowledge, my usage did not result in any long-term damage to my health or mental acuity. It's tough for me, as I'm still very young, to say whether or not I would be square with my hypothetical children smoking marijuana. I will however say that there are far worse things for children to be doing than pot. Alcohol, for example, does have significant, well documented effects on the human body. Furthermore, while I never felt 'dangerous' or 'out of control' while using marijuana, I experience this myself and observe it in others constantly in the case of alcohol. In regards to marijuana use leading to other things, I can say that from my personal experience, the marijuana use did lead to other so-called 'soft drugs' (pharmaceutical painkillers, hallucinogenic mushrooms, opium, etc.). I stopped smoking entirely in April of 2004, right around the time I began having acid reflux issues that were exasperated by marijuana. I definitely wish I could smoke comfortably again. I imagine I feel the same about weed as I would about bananas, assuming that for whatever reason I was suddenly unable to have bananas. Obviously, not one bit of this applies or should apply to anyone else. What it taught me, however, is that a drug is only as bad as you make it. Anyone lacking the fortitude and will power to resist getting addicted to something they know full well is hazardous to their wellbeing, frankly, deserves what's coming to them. I have been exposed to just about every illicit substance there is. I did what I was comfortable doing, and that was it. The unfortunate thing is that there is a stigma surrounding certain drugs that I feel is reasonably unwarranted. People tend to label the drugs themselves as the problem when the real issue should lie with the ignorant, irresponsible fucktards who give outside observers a skewed perception of what a substance like marijuana is and what using it entails.
 
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Vocab nazi here:

Perhaps the eighteen months of toking it up have caused you to use the word exasperate when you meant to use exacerbate. :p
 
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Thump said:
Dude, chill the freak out! Just b/c you and your buddies smoke pot and I don't and have a problem with kids doing it, don't take it out on me.

If you smoke pot that's fine but don't expect me to condone it just because you have no problem with it.

Shouldn't you be busy getting loaded like every other night, hitting on married chicks and then going home empty-handed?

Jesus man!
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LMAO.
i don't smoke pot, and haven't for years. the fact still remains that it is only illegal because of greed and lies, and for the simple fact that the government would have a VERY hard time trying to regulate a plant that grows native in the woods behind the house that i grew up in. how about a hypothetical: would you still feel the same if it was legal? i suspect that your tune would change.

i like that jab at the end. i guess you look down upon my lifesyle, and that's fine; but you will not see me passing judgement on you. only your ignorance.

BTW, the married women hit on me. the fact that i go home empty handed is because i do not participate in marital infidelity, not because i am lacking in matters concerning the lovelier sex.

you sound like a jealous, bitter individual. i feel sorry about that.
 
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jwinslow said:
we're way off topic, so I'll just go ahead and address the original comment.

ADD is a bizarre disease, b/c those who do not have it and are just being lazy will often appear the same way as those who truly cannot overcome the disease. Yes people are overmedicated, but that does not remove the validity of the condition for some. The main problem is that it is often handled wrong by quick prescriptions, where careful treatment - not just biochemically but emotionally, socially, etc - is needed with regard to each individual condition.
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ADD is a joke, and is a diagnosis that is, in part, responsible for the dumbing-down of America. my younger brother was having some difficulties in HS, and was 'diagnosed' as having ADD, and Ritalin was suggested. my mother, however, went for a second opionion, and the resultant testing indicated that he has an IQ of over 140. he was not then, nor has he ever been ADD, HE WAS JUST INCREDIBLY BORED. if school would actually CHALLENGE young people, instead of always catering to the lowest common denominator, a la the "No Child Left Behind Act," then this country would be a better place.

an can we PLEASE for the love of God, stop talking about the 'negative' results asscociated with MJ as if it is only the illegal drugs that have negative side effects? if you will notice, in the inundation of drug commercials that are forced down our throats on television, ALL HAVE NASTY SIDE EFFECTS. i don't know about you, but i don't want to feel like a lady riding across a field on a horse, when the side effects are trouble urinating, bleeding from my eyes, possible birth defects, nausea, etc, etc, etc...

personally, i would rather feel better by taking an organic substance into my body than by taking some chemical cocktail that a greedy pharmaceutical company has forced through the testing process, without the proper research, and glossing over any potential problems, in order to make money. funny how all these drugs are getting recalled every day, isn't it?

the war on drugs is a joke. a new drug comes out every day. the government and the lobbyists WANT you to take drugs. they just object to you taking drugs that they do not supply.

BTW, if anyone wants to argue the federal government's complicity in the importation and distribution of illegal drugs into the country, you REALLY need to look up "The Mena Coverup," in which many top flight politicians, including Bill Clinton, and George W. Bush, regularly imported cocaine into the country through the Mena airstip in Arkansas.
 
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lvbuckeye said:
ADD is a joke, and is a diagnosis that is, in part, responsible for the dumbing-down of America. my younger brother was having some difficulties in HS, and was 'diagnosed' as having ADD, and Ritalin was suggested. my mother, however, went for a second opionion, and the resultant testing indicated that he has an IQ of over 140. he was not then, nor has he ever been ADD, HE WAS JUST INCREDIBLY BORED. if school would actually CHALLENGE young people, instead of always catering to the lowest common denominator, a la the "No Child Left Behind Act," then this country would be a better place.
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My gf has been diagnosed with ADD. She definitely has it, as focusing on one activity too long makes her go nuts. She's definitely smart...2 majors and 3 minors and pulls a 3.9 GPA. She also has abilities others don't normally have, such as she can read a 600 page novel in a matter of a few hours.

Although I agree that the education system is fucked up because it focuses way too much on on the low end and does not challenge the bright people, I don't think your one false ADD incident means that the condition does not exist.
 
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Golferdow01 said:
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My gf has been diagnosed with ADD. She definitely has it, as focusing on one activity too long makes her go nuts. She's definitely smart...2 majors and 3 minors and pulls a 3.9 GPA. She also has abilities others don't normally have, such as she can read a 600 page novel in a matter of a few hours.

Although I agree that the education system is fucked up because it focuses way too much on on the low end and does not challenge the bright people, I don't think your one false ADD incident means that the condition does not exist.
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my intent was not to indicate that i do not believe that the condition exists. it most certainly DOES. my point was that, due to the general malaise that is plaguing our education system, many kids are mis-diagnosed simply because the system would rather drug them and keep the status quo, than actually challenge them. my problem was in the over-diagnosis of ADD, not with the actual condition.
 
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lvbuckeye said:
my intent was not to indicate that i do not believe that the condition exists. it most certainly DOES. my point was that, due to the general malaise that is plaguing our education system, many kids are mis-diagnosed simply because the system would rather drug them and keep the status quo, than actually challenge them. my problem was in the over-diagnosis of ADD, not with the actual condition.
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Gotcha, and I agree with you here.
 
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