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Mixed Martial Arts (Official Thread)

osugrad21;811045; said:
Anyone see the Ortiz/White special last night? What happened?

I stayed up until 12:30 to see it.

NOTHING happened. It was an hour and a half of Dana "training" for the three round sparring bout. About an our and fifteen minutes into it, Dana has to meet with the Nevada Gaming Commission to sanction the bout. They arange a weigh in after granting Dana his license, and Tito doesn't show. The fight never happened. Dana says Tito called him a few days before and said he was "letting him off the hook".

I really don't know what to think. It looks like one of two things to me...

1. Tito bitched out. Period.
2. Dana made an hour and a half special to make it look like Tito bitched out.

I want to hear Tito's side of the story.

Say it ain't so, Tito.
 
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BUCKYLE;811121; said:
I stayed up until 12:30 to see it.

NOTHING happened. It was an hour and a half of Dana "training" for the three round sparring bout. About an our and fifteen minutes into it, Dana has to meet with the Nevada Gaming Commission to sanction the bout. They arange a weigh in after granting Dana his license, and Tito doesn't show. The fight never happened. Dana says Tito called him a few days before and said he was "letting him off the hook".

I really don't know what to think. It looks like one of two things to me...

1. Tito bitched out. Period.
2. Dana made an hour and a half special to make it look like Tito bitched out.

I want to hear Tito's side of the story.

Say it ain't so, Tito.

First he gets wrecked by Liddell, now this. I used to like this guy and thought he was a bad ass. Maybe he should schedule another fight with Shamrock. :lol:
 
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BUCKYLE;811121; said:
I stayed up until 12:30 to see it.

NOTHING happened. It was an hour and a half of Dana "training" for the three round sparring bout. About an our and fifteen minutes into it, Dana has to meet with the Nevada Gaming Commission to sanction the bout. They arange a weigh in after granting Dana his license, and Tito doesn't show. The fight never happened. Dana says Tito called him a few days before and said he was "letting him off the hook".

I really don't know what to think. It looks like one of two things to me...

1. Tito bitched out. Period.
2. Dana made an hour and a half special to make it look like Tito bitched out.

I want to hear Tito's side of the story.

Say it ain't so, Tito.

Ok, that makes sense...I stayed awake long enough to see the first 40 minutes or so...then I DVR'd the rest. I scanned through it this morning but never saw a fight...figured I missed something.

That sucks.
 
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Big Papa;811130; said:
First he gets wrecked by Liddell, now this. I used to like this guy and thought he was a bad ass. Maybe he should schedule another fight with Shamrock. :lol:
Did you watch it?

I really don't know if Tito bitched out or Dana just made a show to make it look that way.
Does anyone know if Tito has any more fights left on his contract? If not, I think Dana doesn't want to resign him, and used this thing to make Tito look bad in front of the fans. I mean, half the show was Dana talking about how "Chuck and I are still friends, so that proves Tito is the asshole". I mean, he was talking about Tito's wife coming to him and asking him (Dana) to "talk to Tito for me". I'm pissed at Dana for knowing nothing was going to fucking happen and still promoting it like there was going to be a fight. I got four hours of sleep to watch that bullshit.
 
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BUCKYLE;811137; said:
Did you watch it?

I really don't know if Tito bitched out or Dana just made a show to make it look that way.
Does anyone know if Tito has any more fights left on his contract? If not, I think Dana doesn't want to resign him, and used this thing to make Tito look bad in front of the fans. I mean, half the show was Dana talking about how "Chuck and I are still friends, so that proves Tito is the asshole". I mean, he was talking about Tito's wife coming to him and asking him (Dana) to "talk to Tito for me". I'm pissed at Dana for knowing nothing was going to fucking happen and still promoting it like there was going to be a fight. I got four hours of sleep to watch that bullshit.

Nah, didn't see it. I thought this had happened already actually. I agree that Tito may be done at UFC. He and Dana have had an up and down relationship for years. It's unfortunate because I think Tito is very entertaining and is a good fighter. One of the best ground and pounders. I actually had my money on him against Chuck. Tito's wife?? Does she know that he is banging Jenna Jameson? :lol: You really have me wondering about Tito, I am going to poke around the internet and see what I can find.
 
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Big Papa;811144; said:
Nah, didn't see it. I thought this had happened already actually. I agree that Tito may be done at UFC. He and Dana have had an up and down relationship for years. It's unfortunate because I think Tito is very entertaining and is a good fighter. One of the best ground and pounders. I actually had my money on him against Chuck. Tito's wife?? Does she know that he is banging Jenna Jameson? :lol: You really have me wondering about Tito, I am going to poke around the internet and see what I can find.

Sorry, his now Ex-wife. I think that Tito's popularity was the reason for this bullshit. I think that Dana knew that if he didn't re-sign Tito, especially after UFC buying PRIDE FC, that Tito's fans, and there are a lot of them, would go apeshit. It's like he orchestrated this whole mess just to say to the fans, "You don't want me to resign this coward, do you"?.

The show just seemed very...fake, to me.
 
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This was a quote I found from Tito's myspace (ug) page.

I just got off the phone with The Scott Ferrall show( Sirius radio). He said the fight with Dana was going to be for charity! That is the first time that has ever been brought to my attention that this fight was in any way shape or form going to be viewed by the public, or any proceeds made and given to a charity house. All of my fans know that I spend a huge amount of my time dedicated to charities. I help under priveleged childred, do bi-annual blood drives and many many other things that come from my heart. This wasn't about charity. This is obviously about Dana White trying to save face. He did not want this fight to be viewed by you ( the public) for fear of being punked. I came up with the idea to box Dana, and he agreed wholeheartedly. and dealpoints were discussed. We came to the conclusion that the training would be filmed and shown on Spike TV and the fight would be aired for PPV on UFC's website and punishment.com. He then , a week before... pulled the plug, without an explaination. Well, to me THAT is punking out. And now he has the balls to try to lie and say it was initially for charity? That is LOW, VERY LOW.
I have been getting paid for fighting the last 10 years. Im not going to start fighting for free now. But I will box Dana's head for free if it goes to charity. Im trying to fight for what I believe in and I get held down on a consistent basis by Dana. Jealousy? I don't know. But it isn't right. I feel sorry for all the fighters that get taken advantage of, but I will not be that guy. I have gotten quite a few very negative comments by people here on my site, and it bothers me since I really go out of my way to do the right thing, not only for me, but for my family. This is not a hobby for me, it"s my Career! PERIOD! If I don't look out for myself no one will. Love me or Hate me, I will still be fighting, kicking ass and taking names. I've been doing it for the last ten years.. and I will continue to dominate and be the best man I can be.
Tito Ortiz
 
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The thing I took from the show:

Tito embarrassed Dana in front of the Nevada gaming commission. Dana got payback by embarrassing Tito on national television.

I hope this doesn't turn into some WWE bullshit.
 
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Here is how I see it. We don't know what really happened. All we got was one side of the story. Dana very well might be a nice guy, but he is an egomaniac. Half of the show was him in big meetings, or in private jets and Ferraris.

Tito is still a very good fighter, and lost to arguably the best 205er in the world.
 
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