Mike Vick (Pittsburgh Steelers)

[Ginn4Heisman]

Were Qyntel Woods charges at the Federal level, and inclusive of Conspiracy and potential tax evasion resulting from illegal gambling?
He didn't cross State lines and it all happened at his home, right?

Ironically Qyntel claims as part of the plea bargain that he writes the column "Animal Kingdom" in which he clearly demonstrates a break with his dog fighting and abuse past - not!


Think he might have a less blase attitude if he actually had been given a more realistic sentence? You know, like the one which Vick will get.

now your reasoning makes sense. I wasnt thinking of the tax evasion and the state lines.

But does the state lines thing really come into play since he owned that house?

I am just trying to make sense of all of this. I like vick, and like i said he is my daughters favorite player, but i could care less if he is not playing with us.

I just want the distractions away from the team so they can go 4-12 in peace with joey at the helm. :)

that way we can get brohm next season.

 

[sandgk]

The State line elevation to Federal level charges came into play when they took their "Magic" pit bulls to the Carolinas and the like. They quite literally crossed the state line to have an out of town bout. Once in the Carolinas they gambled in purse money and side bets on the bouts.
That made it a Federal case.
Then the Feds ran all over the slow moving and lackadaisical local prosecutor in Virginia - who had shown little inclination to vigorously pursue the case. If it had stayed only in Va. I suspect the outcome, after much hand wringing would have been on the scale you describe for Woods - but this is a different case, it is at a higher level and it becomes entirely different.
All was sunny in Vick's life while he felt that the attention was only on the Virginia operation. Once the Feds had their corroborating witnesses Vick was effectively done. He just hasn't woken up to that fact yet in my opinion.

 

[methomps]

Qyntel woods (Nba player) was accussed and found guilty on Dog Fighting and animal cruelty in 2004 and he all the got was 80 hours community service and had to donate 10k to the humane society. So why should it be different for vick? Just because he is more of a name?

Woods pled to a misdemeanor charge. He was facing felony charges that carried punishments up to 5 years and $100k. I don't remember his involvement being nearly as great as is alleged here with Vick.

 

[Best Buckeye]

How about this idea.
Vick is supposed to go to trial in 45 days. Imo if that happens there is no way he can practice enough to run the team, especially if he has to be in court 4 days a week. There is just no way a NFL Qb can do it . And if that happes just what are the Falcons supposed to do for a QB. They just dumped Rusty Schaub(?) In order to put all their marbles behind Vick. And he just signed a humongus new contract for about 110 mill I think. His salary for this year is about 6 . If the Commissioner keeps his word about rough handling of screwups then How long will Vick get suspended for? The season I would imagine.
The Falcons would have to rely on (GASP!) Harrington. Talk about going into the dumper.

 

[methomps]

Vick's trial isn't going to start in 45 days. Just some preliminary stuff. Vick will probably get it pushed back until after the season.

 

[Best Buckeye]

Vick's trial isn't going to start in 45 days. Just some preliminary stuff. Vick will probably get it pushed back until after the season.

I figured he would try to do that too, it only makes sense for someone in his position. The big question is will the commish do anything in the meantime.
If either does happen the Falcons are in a major hurt. The NFL probably won't do anything to ruin the season anyway. Too much money involved.

 

[sandgk]

Looks like another sponsorship deal is biting the dust.

In May Air-Tran ended it's arrangements with Vick, a couple of years ago Coca-Cola's Powerade did not renew sponsorship with Vick, citing a new direction.

Now heavy hitter Nike may be getting cold feet. They are suspending the introduction of a Vick named Nike shoe.

Vick's troubles suspend release of Nike product
By GEORGE HENRY, Associated Press Writer
July 19, 2007
ATLANTA (AP) -- Michael Vick's legal troubles prompted Nike on Thursday to suspend the release of its latest product line named after the Atlanta Falcons quarterback.
Nike has told retailers it will not release a fifth signature shoe, the Air Zoom Vick V, this summer. Nike spokesman Dean Stoyer said the four shoe products and three shirts that currently bear Vick's name will remain in stores.

 

[Best Buckeye]

I knew there was something I was forgetting above. whether or not his sponsors will bail on him and when. Most of them are probably considering it right now. Heck if you or I were indicted we would be sitting at home wondering what truck hit us. What do the Falcons do now that he has been indicted. IMO he will start losing sponsors pretty fast

 

[BB73]

Vick's trial isn't going to start in 45 days. Just some preliminary stuff. Vick will probably get it pushed back until after the season.

Agreed, which is why I'm holding off on any vBets on this for the time being.

 

[BB73]

What do the Falcons do now that he has been indicted?

I would imagine they have lawyers going over his contract with a fine-tooth comb to see under which circumstances they can claim that Vick has voided his contract (the indictment itself may satisfy that).

If I owned that team, I would be happy to dump him if I didn't have to pay him, although that may still leave tha Falcons with a huge salary cap hit.

But they may need some sort of conviction or guilty plea before being able to cut him without getting a grievance from the NFL Players Union.

NOTE - this is all speculation on my part - I'm far from an expert on NFL contracts.

 

[sandgk]

The cost implications of Vick getting cut from the team and other scenarios are covered by Jason Cole - Yahoo

Vick could be cut This is the least likely scenario, at least for the time being. However, Vick, who received a $37 million signing bonus as part of a 10-year, $130 million contract in 2004, could be let go without a devastating impact to Atlanta's salary cap.
Vick is scheduled to count for $13.57 million against the cap this season, including $7.57 million in money already paid to him, according to NFLPA figures. The Falcons would actually save all of Vick's $6 million salary if they released him. Next year, Vick is scheduled to count for $15.1 million, but would count only $14.7 million if released because of money already paid to him.
In other words, the Falcons could save $400,000 in 2008 by cutting Vick. Then again, they'd still have to replace him.

 

[tibor75]

found this in wikipedia. May explain why Vick is facing a harsher penalty than previous dog-fighting scum:

June 15 - ESPN reports that the case investigation involving Vick?s property in Virginia is one of many investigations currently underway around the United States by the agents of the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) using a new federal law enacted by the U.S. Congress earlier in 2007 making organizing a dog fight a felony. The agency is pursuing similar cases elsewhere with considerable support from humane societies and local police departments. So far, that new law has been used less than a dozen times; according to the ESPN attorney, as the courts apply it, more precise definitions of "sponsoring" and "promoting" will develop.

 

[NFBuck]

Bottom line, this has already done irreparable damage to his image. He's already had his fair share of negative press (Ron Mexico, the water bottle, the bird), but this makes him a monster. I hope his ass never sets foot on another NFL field. Pretty bad when Ronny makes Marcus look like the "good son". You stay classy Ron Mexico.

 

[BuckNutty]

I see cbf40 has been working on his tan...

 

[Bestbuck36]

Drugs are one thing. If you want to do that to yourself I say its your right to do so. If you sell or give to kids or hurt people while you are under the influence, you should go down hard.

Senseless destruction of animals and breeding them to do things like that is pretty awful. Killing the animals in the ways that they did just makes you an evil bastard with no chance of redemption. Burn his ass and all of his buddies too! I hope he doesn't get to see the light of day again.