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Mike Vick (Pittsburgh Steelers)

Taylor. Further, in April 2007, an additional ?testing? session was performed by Peace, Phillips, and Vick. Following that session, the indictment alleges that approximately eight dogs were put to death by hanging, drowning, and/or slamming at least one dog?s body to the ground

What the hell! What a sick piece of shit. I hope his sorry ass never plays another down in the NFL again.
 
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Big Papa;883682; said:
Damn, that sucks. Seems like more often than not, when kids look up to professional athletes, more times than not anymore they are let down in some way.

I have no idea what you're talking about, Art Schlichter and Pete Rose were great role models for me when I was growing up! :biggrin:
 
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ESPN - Federal grand jury indicts Vick in dogfighting case - NFL

About eight young dogs were put to death at the Surry County home after they were found not ready to fight in April 2007, the indictment said. They were killed "by hanging, drowning and/or slamming at least one dog's body to the ground."

The indictment also outlined a rough chronology:

? In March 2003, after a pit bull from Bad Newz Kennels lost in a fight, it said Peace consulted with Vick about the losing dog's condition, then executed it by wetting it with water and electrocuting it;

? In March 2003, after two Bad Newz Kennels dog lost fights to dogs owned by a cooperating witness, it alleged that Vick retrieved a bag containing $23,000 and gave it to the owner of the winning dogs. One of the fights had a $20,000 purse;

? In the fall of 2003, a person witnessing a dog fight involving one of the dogs trained by Bad Newz Kennels incurred the ire of another cooperating witness by yelling out Vick's name in front of the crowd during the fight.

It also said that after establishing Bad Newz Kennels in early 2002, Vick and the others obtained shirts and headbands promoting their affiliation with the kennel.

After a police raid on the property in April, Vick said he was rarely at the house, had no idea it may have been used in a criminal enterprise. He blamed family members for taking advantage of his generosity.

On Vick's Web site, he lists his birthplace as Newport News, "a.k.a. BadNews."

The Feds have witnesses, including one that will testify he directly received $23,000 cash from Vick, not a middleman.

Goodbye scumbag. See you in 4 to 6 years.
 
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The thing that is intriguing from the manner in which the indictment and related read, is that is it fairly clear the Feds already have solid witnesses.

As a Humane League representative stated, it is a very strong indictment with more details than normally would be found. This isn't a ham sandwich action. I'd put the odds for Vick getting of right now at 40:60 against. If one of the other three co-defendants rolls to save prison time then move that odds line to 30:70 or worse.

I truly think his career is over, finito, kaput and we are just watching the death throes play out.
 
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sandgk;884030; said:
The thing that is intriguing from the manner in which the indictment and related read, is that is it fairly clear the Feds already have solid witnesses.

As a Humane League representative stated, it is a very strong indictment with more details than normally would be found. This isn't a ham sandwich action. I'd put the odds for Vick getting of right now at 40:60 against. If one of the other three co-defendants rolls to save prison time then move that odds line to 30:70 or worse.

I truly think his career is over, finito, kaput and we are just watching the death throes play out.

PFT is speculating that the guy whose arrest uncovered this whole mess might have flipped on Vick:

WHERE'S BODDIE?
Several readers and media types have raised with us a compelling question regarding the Mike Vick indictment.
Why wasn't Davon Boddie, Vick's cousin who lived on the property, named in the indictment?
Really, how could Boddie have been living at the property and not involved in the operation, especially since the house was built for the sole purpose of supporting the dog-fighting operation?
In June, Boddie told WAVY-TV that he had no knowledge of dog fighting on the property where he lived, and he suggested that the dogs removed from the land in April had been planted there by law enforcement officials.
The most obvious conclusion is that Boddie already has been flipped by prosecutors, and that Boddie is singing like a bird that wants a cracker (or whatever in the hell it is that birds eat).
Indeed, there are four "cooperating witnesses" who are named in the indictment, and who likely testified before the grand jury. They provided exhaustive details, like the names of the dogs and the specific purses for the fights.
Boddie could be one of them. If he is, we hope that he's in a safe house right now, far from the influence or reach of any of the four guys who were named in the indictment.
Another "cooperating witness" could be the woman whom Vick allegedly gave herpes in 2003. (We're kidding. We think.)
 
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sandgk;884030; said:
I'd put the odds for Vick getting of right now at 40:60 against.

I'd put the odds at 50/50. The thing 2 things that Vick has going for him:
1. $ to afford a good lawyer
2. The type of people who are witnesses to 'dogfights' usely are scumbags and Vicks lawyer might be able to dismiss how reputable they actually are.
 
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BuckWrestler141;884037; said:
I'd put the odds at 50/50. The thing 2 things that Vick has going for him:
1. $ to afford a good lawyer
2. The type of people who are witnesses to 'dogfights' usely are scumbags and Vicks lawyer might be able to dismiss how reputable they actually are.

ESPN's crack legal team mentioned that 90% of federal cases are plea bargained and don't reach trial. I don't know it that's true, but I'd be surprised if Vick doesn't try to beat the charges, taking a chance with a high-priced lawyer and a jury.

If it gets that far, the jury selection would be interesting. PETA contributors, along with Hokie and/or Falcon season ticket holders, won't have to worry about making it past the screening process.
 
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iambrutus;883822; said:
Vick is a worthless piece of shit, hopefully he gets shot by a member of PETA while walking into the courthouse, that would be must see TV!

I doubt many PETA members are gun owners.


BB73;884044; said:
ESPN's crack legal team mentioned that 90% of federal cases are plea bargained and don't reach trial. I don't know it that's true, but I'd be surprised if Vick doesn't try to beat the charges, taking a chance with a high-priced lawyer and a jury.

The 90% estimate fits with the numbers I've heard (actually I was told closer to 95%). The reason the plea rate is so high is because the conviction rate is equally one sided....it's also around 90%.

Those numbers are coming form a federal prosecutor.

If Vick tries to beat the charges I can guarantee it's against the advice of his attorney.
 
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