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Mike Vick (Pittsburgh Steelers)

A 3-month reduction for good behavior would mean the 20 months end on July 19th, 2009, since he started his term on Nov. 19th. That surely puts the 2009 season in doubt, even if pending state charges and further suspension by Goodell don't make it impossible.

I'm not sure why, but in his statement outside the courtroom, lead attorney Billy Martin said that Vick would serve "18 to 23 months".
 
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BB73;1024257; said:
A 3-month reduction for good behavior would mean the 20 months end on July 19th, 2009, since he started his term on Nov. 19th. That surely puts the 2009 season in doubt, even if pending state charges and further suspension by Goodell don't make it impossible.

I'm not sure why, but in his statement outside the courtroom, lead attorney Billy Martin said that Vick would serve "18 to 23 months".

another thing he could do and I bet his lawyers are working on it, is to have him take that 9 month drug abuse class to cut off 1 year and 6 months in a half way house. The waiting list in the federal system is long as hell but, he has the money and the lawyers to get him in that class as fast as possible and he should get into it because, he tested positive for drug abuse with his probation test. Say with good luck, he does 9/11 months taking the class then, he gets 6 months at a half way house. Thats the biggest scam the government has going on. They would let him practice or play with his team if, he gets one but, he has to pay 25% or 35% of each pay check to the half way house. I know the couple in akron are owned somewhere around 50% by a few judges.
 
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< rant >
I think all of this is just madness... Yes, what he did was wrong, and I am a pet owner, but they were just dogs, folks are acting like he murdered people or something... And all of these folks who place pets over people need to be shot, where are your voices when athletes/celebrities/every day joes are beating their wives? Huh? Right... SILENT...

Vick was stupid for continuing his hood ways after he got all of that money knowing good and well that no matter how much he amassed, if something went down the money would mean nothing! The ONLY difference between Vick and the average brotha on the street getting caught up is that he can afford a better defense attorney.

When will they[athletes and celebrities such as T.I] learn? They were blessed to come into that fortune and they should have sat their dumbasses down and enjoyed the fruits of their labors instead of running the streets with people [including family because we all know they can get you caught up quicker than your friends] who would toss you under the bus to save their own sorry hides.

I hope this serves as a lesson to our young collegiate athletes everywhere: It's okay to get money, but when you do get it, sit your ass down somewhere and act like you have some sense of home training! Please?

< / rant >
 
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scooter1369;1025004; said:
You lost me at "just dogs".

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Oh. So wha wrong wich you? You no rike dog now?
 
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Dispatch

Vick's financial hit

Tuesday, December 11, 2007 3:08 AM




A look at the staggering financial losses, approaching an estimated $142 million, incurred by Falcons quarterback Michael Vick:

Salary $71 MILLION

? In the final seven seasons of his Falcons contract, which the team is expected to terminate when salary-cap ramifications are resolved
Endorsements $50 MILLION

? Lost in the next 10 years, according to an estimate by the University of Oregon's Warsaw Sports Marketing Center
Lost bonuses $19.97 MILLION

? Previously paid bonuses that an arbitrator has ruled the Falcons can recoup from Vick, though the ruling is being reviewed by a U.S. District Judge in Minneapolis

Escrow $928,073

? Funds that Vick put into an escrow account as part of his plea agreement for the care of about 54 pit bulls found on his property
? Note: Vick also has been sued by three banks for alleged defaults on a total of $5.8 million in loans
-- Atlanta Journal-Constitution
 
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Dispatch

Realtor expecting to get some bites on Vick house

Tuesday, December 11, 2007 3:00 AM
By Larry O'Dell


ASSOCIATED PRESS

SURRY, Va. -- Sherry Walker descended the polished hardwood stairs and joined husband Ben in what used to be Michael Vick's den.

"The bathroom -- oh my God! -- has a fireplace. It's beautiful," she said, describing the upstairs during her tour of the 4,600-square-foot white brick house that fronted Vick's dogfighting operation.
Out back, behind the deck and full-size basketball court, the scene was more grim.

Continued.....
 
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If anyone is interested in what happened to the dogs confiscated from the Vick property, only a few had to be put down. The 48 living dogs will be sent to animal rescues across the country. Twenty-two of them will be at the Best Friends Animal Sanctuary in Utah, which is the largest animal rescue in the U.S. (and a wonderful place). The rest will most likely be at Bay Area Dog Lovers Responsible About Pit Bulls (BAD RAP) of Oakland, Calif. (10), Richmond Animal League of Richmond, Va. (4); Georgia SPCA of Suwanee, Ga. (3); SPCA of Monterey County, Calif. (3); Recycled Love Inc. of Baltimore, Md. (3); Animal Rescue of Tidewater, Chesapeake, Va. (1); and PACK (Pit Bull Advocates for Compassion and Kindness), San Francisco, Calif. (1).

Latest News | ‘They deserve the very best that we can give them’ | Best Friends News & Top Stories
 
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FeistyRedHeadAZ;1024984; said:
< rant >
I think all of this is just madness... Yes, what he did was wrong, and I am a pet owner, but they were just dogs, folks are acting like he murdered people or something... And all of these folks who place pets over people need to be shot, where are your voices when athletes/celebrities/every day joes are beating their wives? Huh? Right... SILENT...

Vick was stupid for continuing his hood ways after he got all of that money knowing good and well that no matter how much he amassed, if something went down the money would mean nothing! The ONLY difference between Vick and the average brotha on the street getting caught up is that he can afford a better defense attorney.

When will they[athletes and celebrities such as T.I] learn? They were blessed to come into that fortune and they should have sat their dumbasses down and enjoyed the fruits of their labors instead of running the streets with people [including family because we all know they can get you caught up quicker than your friends] who would toss you under the bus to save their own sorry hides.

I hope this serves as a lesson to our young collegiate athletes everywhere: It's okay to get money, but when you do get it, sit your ass down somewhere and act like you have some sense of home training! Please?

< / rant >

While I might generally agree with most of this rant, saying they are "just dogs" is ridiculous. Dogs are smart animals. They trust us when we own them. They are companions, sometimes just as much or more so than a human companion because they love without conditions. To torture and kill a dog is like torturing and killing a retarded kid. They can't do anything about it, they don't understand why it's happening, and they wonder why someone they loved is hurting them. That's the crime of pet abuse.

And to address your comment about spousal abuse, there are all kinds of programs available to both men and women who are abused. Yes, it's horrible but Humans have the ability to make choices. Dogs don't.

My $.02 for what it's worth. :wink2:
 
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ESPN Page 2 - Hruby: Can Vick stay buff?

Michael Vick is going away. But not forever. Which begs the question: Can the Atlanta Falcons quarterback use his 23 months of federal prison time as a springboard to a possible NFL comeback?


More to the point, can he stay in anything remotely resembling football game shape while pumping iron in the yard and scarfing jailhouse tater tots?
 
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I have to admit that while I do not in any way condone his actions, I do feel empathy toward Vick. Can you fault a man for adhering to his nature? Allowing that such a person was aware of the illegality of his nature, I suppose you could, but where does one draw the line? Is a gay couple in an intolerant state supposed to respect a bigoted law that prohibits their sexual interaction? Granted, such an act is completely victimless, whereas Vick's exploits are decidedly not. Nevertheless, I have a difficult time reconciling the fact that Vick lost more for his specific crime than any man before him had. You might argue that that's life. That the bigger they come, the harder they fall. But did he not earn his fortune? I think he did. I think the fact that he had more to lose makes it harder to accept him losing it. I do not lament the success of others, so therefore I do not derive pleasure from their loss. I grieve for the animals--they did not deserve what they received. But I do not support the public crucifixion of an embattled and confused individual.

To 'FeistyRedHeadAZ': Take OCBuckWife's two cents and go buy some fucking perspective.
 
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vrbryant;1028808; said:
I have to admit that while I do not in any way condone his actions, I do feel empathy toward Vick. Can you fault a man for adhering to his nature? Allowing that such a person was aware of the illegality of his nature, I suppose you could, but where does one draw the line? Is a gay couple in an intolerant state supposed to respect a bigoted law that prohibits their sexual interaction? Granted, such an act is completely victimless, whereas Vick's exploits are decidedly not. Nevertheless, I have a difficult time reconciling the fact that Vick lost more for his specific crime than any man before him had. You might argue that that's life. That the bigger they come, the harder they fall. But did he not earn his fortune? I think he did. I think the fact that he had more to lose makes it harder to accept him losing it. I do not lament the success of others, so therefore I do not derive pleasure from their loss. I grieve for the animals--they did not deserve what they received. But I do not support the public crucifixion of an embattled and confused individual.

I was with you to the last sentence. While embattled, I don't think Vick is in any way confused on what he was doing or the illegality of it. In fact, I think the illegality of it is what drew him to the actions.

To 'FeistyRedHeadAZ': Take OCBuckWife's two cents and go buy some fucking perspective.

Seconded....
 
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NFL Fines 5 Falcons for Vick Tributes

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NFL Fines 5 Falcons for Vick Tributes

NEW YORK (AP) -- Roddy White and four other Atlanta Falcons were fined by the NFL for violating uniform regulations with tributes to Michael Vick during last week's Monday night game.

Vick, Atlanta's suspended Pro Bowl quarterback, was sentenced to 23 months in prison on federal dogfighting charges the morning of Dec. 10. The Falcons played at home against New Orleans that night.

After scoring a touchdown, White displayed a "Free Mike Vick" T-shirt under his jersey.

He, along with tight end Alge Crumpler and cornerbacks DeAngelo Hall and Chris Houston, were fined $10,000 each.

cont'd...
 
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shetuck;1031882; said:
NFL Fines 5 Falcons for Vick Tributes

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I was just going to post this article myself, but you beat me to it. These players got off easy... they should've been suspended for the rest of the season. This is one of the most ridiculous things done, said, or seen throughout this entire Vick saga. From the NFL's perspective the Vick sentencing was a chance to put this behind them and move forward as Roger attempts to continue remedy the league's PR problem. I love football, and I believe that most of the league are good people, but this reinforces the stereotype of a league of thugs... in this case, Thugs supporting a fellow Thug/Convicted felon on national TV.

On a side note... although Bobby the Snake acted like a total douchebag in the way he left, I can understand why he did what he did with personalities like these on the roster.
 
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