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Michigan Coaching Speculation

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shetuck;1001138; said:
my money's on DeBord... he's gotta be the guy who has the best relationship with the underclassmen on the squad, so he's gotta be the guy who stands the best chance of keeping things on track. i don't think the alums are going to back English, but, if Bollinger was still there, that might be a different story.

heck, if Bollinger was there, he might even get the alums to back Mahmoud Ahmadinejad! :biggrin:

:oh:

edit: i'm not attempting to draw a comparison b/w English and Ahmadinejad
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:io:.

Can't leave you hanging.
 
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AKAKBUCK;1001398; said:
Was it a big change though? Cooper to Tressel?
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Whoa! there's the answer, sign up John Cooper! He's available. He can recruit like crazy and he led Michigan to a 10-2 and 1 record in 13 years!


I feel bad posting that as I always felt like Coop just kept drawing Friday the 13th on Michigan Saturdays. But, Hey, it it gunny.
 
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I keep telling my scUm friends that Brian Kelly will be their next coach. As much as it hurts me to say this (gulp), he may very well be their JT. Kelly is a good head coach (look at what he did with mediocre GV, CM, and UC). Plus, he has strong State of MI ties and is young (48).

The guy as a track record of taking existing players in a program and motivating them to their full potential. He could never take UC to a "national power" status. He would continually loose great recruits because of poor facilities that the current president, Nancy Zimpher, will not upgrade. The stadium seats 35,000 and there is no way to expand it, also there are no indoor practice facilities. They are not going to open the check book for him or the football program. They didn't do it for Minter or Dantonio, so why would they do it for him? Typical Cincinnati, they are handing him a lump of coal and are expecting him to turn it into a diamond.

Keeping all of this in mind, I think it would be easy for him to leave after one year to go to a program like scUM.
 
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buckcfd;1001880; said:
I keep telling my scUm friends that Brian Kelly will be their next coach. As much as it hurts me to say this (gulp), he may very well be their JT. Kelly is a good coach (look at what he did with mediocre GV, CM, and UC). Plus, he has strong State of MI ties and is young (48).

The guy as a track record of taking existing players in a program and motivating them to their full potential. He could never take UC to a "national power" status. He would continually loose great recruits because of poor facilities that the current president, Nancy Zimpher, will not upgrade. The stadium seats 35,000 and there is no way to expand it, also there are no indoor practice facilities. They are not gong to open the check book for him or the football program. They didn't do it for Minter or Dantonio, so why would they do it for him? Typical Cincinnati, they are handing him a lump of coal and are expecting him to turn it into a diamond.

Keeping all of this in mind, I think it would be easy for him to leave after one year to go to a program like scUM.
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He seems like a good coach but he doesn't scare me.

One could argue that he has benefited greatly from a lot of hard work by Dantonio and an exceptional quarterback, who emerged only the last two games of last year.
 
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Read at your own risk

Angelique S. Chengelis / The Detroit News

ANN ARBOR -- As far as Mike DeBord and Ron English are concerned, Michigan's next head coach is on staff.

Both men, currently coordinators at Michigan, are expected to be interviewed by athletic director Bill Martin to fill the vacancy left by Lloyd Carr, who announced his retirement on Monday after 13 seasons as head coach.


The widely held view is LSU coach Les Miles, a former Michigan player and assistant coach, is the top candidate, but Martin made clear he intends to make this a national search.
DeBord, 51, the offensive coordinator, is in his 11th season with the Wolverines. English, 39, the defensive coordinator, is in his fifth season.

"I believe what Lloyd said (during his retirement speech), that the job pursues you," DeBord said. "If they ask me to interview, I'd be honored to go about that process."

DeBord said he has been told through an athletic department representative he will be interviewed. English said he wants to be included as a candidate.


"I want to interview," English said. "I would certainly want the job and I will attack the interview."

DeBord spent four seasons as head coach at Central Michigan. English has not been a head coach.

"Bill's been on the sideline, he's had a chance to watch me work," English said of Martin. "He's going to be attracted to that (demeanor), or he's not. It's very aggressive.


"I do think whoever gets the job, the one thing I would hope is that even if I'm not here, I hope he respects the lineage here and the tradition here, or else it becomes like any other place. Then, to be frank, it's not as attractive a job. It becomes one thing -- all about winning games. That's what I loved working for Lloyd. The great thing of my time here, I got the experience of the real Michigan."

DeBord said he will convince Martin he's the right hire.


"When you go into an interview for something you really want, you have to go with your gun loaded, and I'm going to have my gun loaded," DeBord said. "I would love to continue what's been here for so long. I'd like to be head coach to have the continuity for the players and the coaches. I would keep the staff intact."


DeBord is aware he will have to defend himself on several issues. While at CMU, his teams went 12-34. Three years later, Brian Kelly, now head coach at Cincinnati, led Central to the Mid-American Conference championship.


"The way I defend that is, I will say this: We went in there, we put a culture together just like Michigan, we were, it's nothing against the kids, but we weren't as talented as we wanted to be," DeBord said. "When they won the championship, those were with sophomores, juniors and seniors that our staff had recruited. We had taken a program that was at the bottom of the conference, and we elevated it recruiting-wise to go win the conference championship.


"I know what the record is, but I also do know where we started and what ended up happening and what is still happening."


He also knows the Michigan offense has its critics. The Wolverines are coming off a 14-3 loss to Ohio State last Saturday.
"Our last game last season (against Ohio State), we were playing for the national championship game, and the last game this year, we were playing for the Big Ten title," DeBord said. "I know we came up short, and even though people are disappointed, and we were disappointed, let's look at what we were playing for."


English said if he were to get the job, he would be prepared for the pressures of being head coach at Michigan.


"If you're in coaching, everybody should want to be a head coach, because you want to be able to influence a program," he said. "I like the fact that at Michigan, academics are still important and the way the kids act is still important. I think it's better to be at a place where the expectations are high."

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MaizeandBlue;1002749; said:
your not gonna believe this. i heard on WTKA AM1050 that Urban Meyer wants the Michigan job. he has a clause in his contract that allows him to be considered.
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He had an out clause while at Utah which listed several schools, which included Florida, Michigan, and Ohio State (along with Notre Dame, if I'm not mistaken).
 
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MililaniBuckeye;1001374; said:
How is that not an accurate comparison? If he can use a pro defense to slow down a pro offense (same talent level), then he should be able to do the same with a college defense against a college offense. Remember when folks were doubting Tressel when he was first hired because "he was successfulat the I-AA level, but this is I-A". I would think a solid NFL defensive coordinator would be able to handle college offenses (not as complex) with his college defense, especially at a school like Michigan where he could recruit top-level talent.
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The X-factor is dealing college kids versus professionals. Extrapolations like that could lead to one saying Charlie Weiss directed a potent offense in New England so he could do the same at Notre Dame :biggrin:.

On Fox Sports Radios the other day mentioned scUM's president was at Iowa before Michigan and is a big Kirk Ferentz fan.
 
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DaytonBuck;1003295; said:
The X-factor is dealing college kids versus professionals. Extrapolations like that could lead to one saying Charlie Weiss directed a potent offense in New England so he could do the same at Notre Dame :biggrin:.

On Fox Sports Radios the other day mentioned scUM's president was at Iowa before Michigan and is a big Kirk Ferentz fan.
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Weis may be a bust with college kids, but look at Pete Carroll. Besides, BuckeyeMike80's quote dealt with talent level, not player maturity:

BuckeyeMike80;1001107; said:
I don't think that's a very accurate comparasion, considering the talent of the players involved (NFL vs. CFB)
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2 cents: It's got a lot to do with the player development in skill and maturity. A high school to college player experiences a huge transition from some unfortunate non-technical coaching in high school (not universal, but certainly present in many programs), and tends to have much more freedom to showcase skills through pure athletic ability. When they get to college, they must be mature enough to accept coaching and incorporate it in order to generate success.

For instance, a high school DT at 280 pounds can play an offense in which the young man across from him is 50+ pounds lighter. A mismatch in size, speed and strength can be the only factor in the equation. In college, that same 280 pound player must learn various techniques that may have never been introduced in the past, and must have both planning and reaction in order to beat the man on the other side of the LOS. Setting an O-lineman up with one move on second down for another move on third is critical. A DT may use a bull rush on one down and a push-pull the next. The physical gap (i.e. speed, strength, size) isn't as glaring as it was in HS.

Another example might be at QB. Sloppy technique and a lack of progressional reads doesn't mean a QB can't be successful in high school. In college, reading defenses and understanding the passing tree and progressions are required. It's almost much more "backyard" at the high school level where pure God-given ability will triumph.

It's all in player development. See: Weiss, Carroll, etc. These coaches may be brilliant at dissecting a defense/offense with players who already know the ropes by the time they get to the NFL. But in my opinion, they are far less proficient in teaching the skills required to separate equal talent (e.g. teaching a receiver how to drive off the ball and get separation while altering the route in order to give the QB enough space to get the ball into the receiver). It's as much mental as it is physical in the higher levels of football.
 
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