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Michael Jackson dies after cardiac arrest

An interesting blog post, I thought, regarding who, or what, MJ had become.

The saddest thing about Jackson was not just that his fame ruined him, it's that it continued ruining him even after he was essentially finished as an artist. In the last decade of his life he was no longer a great singer or a talented composer or a brilliant choreographer; he was someone who had once been all those things and was now Michael Jackson. Here was a guy whose entire existence from early childhood had been wrapped up with what happened when he did things that made other people happy and excited. And that was unavailable to him. He still could make people happy and excited by showing up and having his picture taken, but that's all he had left.


Someone on the WELL used a word about Jackson's probable history as a child molester that made me stop and think: "unforgiveable." It strikes me that it never even occurred to me whether or not to forgive Michael Jackson. In my mind, he was so far away from normative that the question of forgiveness seems totally irrelevant. Not that his no longer really being human in any meaningful sense justified his actions, or mitigated the harm he did, but that it makes no more sense to judge the morality of his actions than it would to judge Henry Darger's. Their creepiness, sure. But this was a man (it's a mark of how profoundly damaged Michael Jackson was that it feels strange to call him "a man", just as it feels strange to recognize that when he died he was older than the President of the United States) who spent every day of his life embedded in a matrix of perverse incentives. The terrain of his personal landscape was unrecognizable. I can understand the choices that my cat makes more deeply than I could understand the ones Jackson made.

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NextBuck;1491348; said:
Maybe this has been discussed but why didn't he inseminate his childrens mother with his sperm instead of a donor? I can understand if he didnt want to have sex with her but why use a donor?
Well, that would have left his offspring having to go down that same trail of plastic surgeries in order to run away from their natural appearance too.
 
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BTW, what's the point of crowds of people hanging around the hospital after he has been pronounced dead and his body taken to the coroner?

Or gathering outside of his boyhood home?

Retards.
 
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Thump;1491580; said:
BTW, what's the point of crowds of people hanging around the hospital after he has been pronounced dead and his body taken to the coroner?

Or gathering outside of his boyhood home?

Retards.

Or along the police barrier along Sunset where his last rented home was (there is a makeshift memorial there). Or the thousands expected to go to his viewing this weekend? Or the couple handfulls of people who un/successfully committed suicide because of his death??

Not many pop icons have this kind of pull on people's lives... it's crazy...
 
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[quote='BusNative;149162;9]Or along the police barrier along Sunset where his last rented home was (there is a makeshift memorial there). Or the thousands expected to go to his viewing this weekend? Or the couple handfulls of people who un/successfully committed suicide because of his death??

Not many pop icons have this kind of pull on people's lives... it's crazy...[/quote]

I'm thinking I might go to the viewing and throw little plastic babies wrapped in condoms at the crowd like Mardi Gras favors. Who's with me!?
 
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[quote='BusNative;149162;9]Or along the police barrier along Sunset where his last rented home was (there is a makeshift memorial there). Or the thousands expected to go to his viewing this weekend? Or the couple handfulls of people who un/successfully committed suicide because of his death??

Not many pop icons have this kind of pull on people's lives... it's crazy...[/quote]

Well look at the number of people who cried at the sight of him when he was popular too...never understood that...
 
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NextBuck;1491348; said:
Maybe this has been discussed but why didn't he inseminate his childrens mother with his sperm instead of a donor? I can understand if he didnt want to have sex with her but why use a donor?

The rumor decades ago was that he took steps to ensure that his voice stayed high.
 
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Thump;1491580; said:
Or gathering outside of his boyhood home?
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In their defense it was Gary, Indiana. Most of those people don't have jobs or homes, so really it just gave them something to do other than sit around and drink.

I did laugh when I saw one new report outside of his home and as the reporter is talking people are behind him flashing gang signs.
 
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[quote='BusNative;149162;9]Or along the police barrier along Sunset where his last rented home was (there is a makeshift memorial there). Or the thousands expected to go to his viewing this weekend? Or the couple handfulls of people who un/successfully committed suicide because of his death??

Not many pop icons have this kind of pull on people's lives... it's PATHETIC...[/quote]

FIFY
 
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I don't have a link offhand, but I saw this morning that Joe Jackson is going to charge 25 bucks for people to attend the "public" memorial at the Staples Center...nothing like milking every last dime :shake:
 
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Bucklion;1492223; said:
I don't have a link offhand, but I saw this morning that Joe Jackson is going to charge 25 bucks for people to attend the "public" memorial at the Staples Center...nothing like milking every last dime :shake:

This family has been living off of Michael Jackson since he was a child. The father's comments the other night were a clear indication of the true connection they had to him.

Maybe Justin Timberlake can share what he learned in those burger ads with Jermaine and the gang...
 
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