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Mich St 25, Wisconsin 24 (Final)

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I wouldn't wish what has happened to Wisconsin football fans this year on either Iowa or Michigan fans. And I can't stand their fans.

Damn right, Bucky was cheated by Bielema's boneheaded decision making all day. From bad game management, to momentum turning sideline penalties, keeping a TO in his pocket when the defense isn't ready for no huddle on a key 3rd and long (reminded me of what he did against the Buckeyes before Pryor's run), and then finally feeling it's more important to ice the kicker (which has no proven efficacy) than preserve precious time on the clock so your offense can come back (which does).

Even with all that said, it looked like we had the game secured on a long Clay run, but it was nullified on a phantom holding penalty which turned a 3rd and 1 into a 3rd and 11. Game should have been played under protest for that play alone because the correct call would have definitively meant a different outcome.

Just completely and utterly disgusted right now between this game, the Michigan debacle, and the OSU fiasco.
 
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Isn't it about time Sparty started being Sparty and dropping games the 2nd half of the season? :) j/k, they've looked solid almost all year, they've played tough, and Ringer has been carrying the team on his back. Hes one hell of a workhorse and has been a great leader for MSU.
 
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Bernini;1312007; said:
Even with all that said, it looked like we had the game secured on a long Clay run, but it was nullified on a phantom holding penalty which turned a 3rd and 1 into a 3rd and 11. Game should have been played under protest for that play alone because the correct call would have definitively meant a different outcome.
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See Beanie's run one play before Pryor fumbled and the spot of the ball which should have been a first down......Face it the Big Ten has probably the worst referees this side of the SEC....
 
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ulukinatme;1312008; said:
Isn't it about time Sparty started being Sparty and dropping games the 2nd half of the season? :) j/k, they've looked solid almost all year, they've played tough, and Ringer has been carrying the team on his back. Hes one hell of a workhorse and has been a great leader for MSU.
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Not much for Ringer today.....great job by Dantonio keeping this team focused...it would have been easy for them to let down after spanking scUM....
 
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Bernini;1312007; said:
Even with all that said, it looked like we had the game secured on a long Clay run, but it was nullified on a phantom holding penalty which turned a 3rd and 1 into a 3rd and 11. Game should have been played under protest for that play alone because the correct call would have definitively meant a different outcome.
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:slappy:Brett Bielima? Is that you?
 
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MSU can still go to the Rose Bowl. If MSU and tOSU win out, and PSU's only loss is to MSU, Sparty wins the tie-breaker for the Rose Bowl because they didn't schedule any FCB (1-AA) opponents this year.

I'm not kidding. I looked up the tie-breaker in the Big Ten media guide. There's now a sticky thread in the main football forum about tOSU's BCS bowl possibilities.
 
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Game should have been played under protest for that play alone because the correct call would have definitively meant a different outcome.
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Absurd. Your DBs got away with murder out there. One call doesn't come close to balancing those out.
 
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jwinslow;1313444; said:
Absurd. Your DBs got away with murder out there. One call doesn't come close to balancing those out.
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You're thinking of Brinkley, who got away with a couple P.I.'s, but also was called for a couple cheapies. Wisconsin drew 12 penalties for 121, while MSU drew 2 for 30. To say Wisconsin got the lion's share of calls otherwise just isn't backed up statistically.

And the way I look at it is even if the pass interferences were called, they wouldn't have directly effected the outcome. Wisconsin could have changed the way they played, like getting more aggressive offensively, not playing so much prevent as they are accustomed with leads. Passing wouldn't have been so easy down the stretch for MSU if Wisconsin wasn't playing soft coverage once again.

On the other hand, if the correct call is made on the Moffitt phantom hold, Wisconsin wins definitively. They could have run out the clock at that point. Comparing calls in the middle of a game to one at the very end is tantamount to saying an official should overturn a fumble call after the whistle was blown because they overturned a TD grab in the end zone. Nothing could occur after a catch to change the outcome, but if the whistle doesn't blow more players pursue the football and maybe a different team recovers.

You'd never hear me say a game should be played under protest for even a multitude of calls in the middle of a game. It's not nearly the same thing. I might gripe about it....but it's not the same.
 
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I really wish I had not deleted the recording this morning.
You're thinking of Brinkley, who got away with a couple P.I.'s, but also was called for a couple cheapies. Wisconsin drew 12 penalties for 121, while MSU drew 2 for 30. To say Wisconsin got the lion's share of calls otherwise just isn't backed up statistically.
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It was FAR more than a couple, and you know this. There were multiple drives with multiple instances of early contact uncalled, clearly shoving away the WR before the ball arrived. The announcers went on and on about this all game long.
And the way I look at it is even if the pass interferences were called, they wouldn't have directly effected the outcome. Wisconsin could have changed the way they played, like getting more aggressive offensively, not playing so much prevent as they are accustomed with leads. Passing wouldn't have been so easy down the stretch for MSU if Wisconsin wasn't playing soft coverage once again.
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That's a truckload of what if's. The fact remains your DBs knocked down/away the MSU WRs all night before the ball arrived...

MSU was aggressive, and the early contact by Wisconsin led to a lot of missed plays downfield.

I'm not convinced Wisky would have been that aggressive in the passing game when run right/left was working so well.
mparing calls in the middle of a game to one at the very end is tantamount to saying an official should overturn a fumble call after the whistle was blown because they overturned a TD grab in the end zone. Nothing could occur after a catch to change the outcome, but if the whistle doesn't blow more players pursue the football and maybe a different team recovers.
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I'm not talking about something that stopped occuring in the middle of the game.
You'd never hear me say a game should be played under protest for even a multitude of calls in the middle of a game. It's not nearly the same thing. I might gripe about it....but it's not the same.
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Wonderful. The uncalled interference came early, middle and late in the MSU game.
 
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BuckeyeTillIDie;1313482; said:
I'll probably never see another game where one team out rushes the other by 250 yards and still manages to lose.
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Not only did Wiscy outrush Sparty by 256 yards, they outrushed them by a ratio more than 11-to-1 (281 yards vs. 25 yards). You gain 11 times more yards rushing than your opponent and still lose, that's gotta be hard to swallow...
 
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