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Miami (FL) Hurricanes (1926-2003)

Gatorubet;2011434; said:
I say this with the utmost respect: please pay attention to the difference between the NCAA ruling on eligibility and the NCAA enforcement division ruling on violations of NCAA rules. They are not the same thing. The eligibility folks ruled on your Sugar Bowl eligibility in a week or two. We are still waiting on the enforcement fall out. Miami got an equally speedy ruling on eligibility. That will be followed by the enforcement folks, and that will also take a long time.

With USC it took years. With tOSU it is taking from the tat-5 discovery in December of 2010 until whenever a ruling is finally issued this Fall. Compare the tat-5 stuff to this. There is a Hell of a lot more leg work for the NCAA to do. Miami is not skating. They are just on borrowed time.

Your "sweep under the rug" stuff is just silly - at least and until the NCAA enforcement folks issue a final ruling. Hell, they have not even sent a Notice of Allegations yet. This is not swept. This is just pre-lubeless anal sex stage for the Canes.
it's a good think those weren't union hookers. Those miami players might have been forced to sit out 3 games.
 
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Miami might be considering a self-imposed bowl ban this year in order to soften sanctions down the line. They're 4-4, and likely to finish either 6-6 or 7-5, so they wouldn't be missing out on a prestigious post-season berth.

SI.com

Miami AD unsure of NCAA timeline

CORAL GABLES, Fla. (AP) -- There's not much that Miami athletic director Shawn Eichorst can say about an ongoing investigation into the Hurricanes' compliance practices, one that could lead to stiff sanctions from the NCAA. He isn't sure when he'll be able to say much about it, either.


Speaking out for the first time since the scandal centered around the actions of a former booster broke in August, Eichorst revealed Tuesday that the Hurricanes do not know when the NCAA will be done with the process of collecting information or when the Hurricanes should find out what sort of penalties they'll be facing.


But Eichorst was extremely guarded in his comments, declining to even say if the football team - which is at the epicenter of the scandal - will go to a bowl game if they are eligible. It's possible that Miami may elect to self-impose certain sanctions, including a bowl ban or loss of a small number of scholarships, ahead of any NCAA penalties, although the school has never said if it is even considering any such moves.


"We're continuing to cooperate," Eichorst said. "And I believe that the NCAA is very pleased with the level of cooperation they've not only received from the institution, but more importantly from the cooperation they've received from some of the student-athletes that have been interviewed and reinstated up to this point."


The NCAA said on Aug. 30 that 12 football players who were declared ineligible by the university may return to the field this season after completing some conditions: four were ordered to pay back amounts of less than $100, and eight others repaid larger fines and faced suspensions of either one, four or six games. A 13th player was vindicated and did not face any penalty.


There has not been a ruling yet on men's basketball player DeQuan Jones. The former booster, convicted Ponzi scheme architect Nevin Shapiro, told Yahoo Sports for a story published in August that he provided Miami coaches with $10,000 in cash to secure Jones' commitment to the Hurricanes, and later got the money back.


Eichorst isn't sure when the Hurricanes will know Jones' status. Jones will not play until the NCAA decides his case.


"He has cooperated. We have cooperated," Eichorst said. "I hope sooner than later we can figure out where we're going to be."


Eichorst and football coach Al Golden are in similar positions, in that they're facing a mess that was created long before they joined the Hurricanes.


Both arrived at Miami (Golden in December 2010, Eichorst this past April) long after Shapiro's involvement with the university ended.

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BB73;2025774; said:
Miami might be considering a self-imposed bowl ban this year in order to soften sanctions down the line. They're 4-4, and likely to finish either 6-6 or 7-5, so they wouldn't be missing out on a prestigious post-season berth.

SI.com

I call bullshit. You don't get to see your cards before you ante up. If they were going to give up a post season it should have been right as the story was breaking.

Fuck da u.
 
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sparcboxbuck;2025792; said:
I call bullshit. You don't get to see your cards before you ante up. If they were going to give up a post season it should have been right as the story was breaking.

Fuck da u.

While I can see your point, I don't think it would be right to make a decision based on a breaking story. Ohio State didn't make decisions based on breaking stories about cars, or any other scandals until it was investigated further. But Ohio State had the "luxury" of being allowed to go months before the season started. Miami does not.

Perhaps the best thing in this case is for Miami to announce now that any post-season bans they are self-imposing will begin with the 2012-2013 season.

(Disclaimer: I haven't been following this story and don't really know or care what their penalty will be or should be. I should have said that if they choose to self-impose a post-season ban, blah blah blah.)
 
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Miami is self-imposing a bowl ban for this year in order to minimize future penalties.

Miami's seniors are 0-3 in bowl games since the 2008 season, so they'll complete their careers without a bowl win.

CBS

Despite qualifying with Saturday's win over South Florida, Miami has made the decision to remove themselves from bowl consideration this season in response to the ongoing NCAA inquiry into the Nevin Shapiro allegations. The school has informed both the NCAA and the ACC of its decision.
We understand and share the disappointment that our student-athletes, coaches, staff, supporters and fans are feeling but after lengthy discussions among University leaders, athletic administrators and outside counsel, it is a necessary step for our University. The University of Miami has not self-imposed any other penalties.
Athletic Director Shawin Eichorst and head coach Al Golden addressed the decision briefly in a teleconference on Sunday afternoon. Eichorst informed Golden of the school's decision early Sunday afternoon, and further meetings with the coaches and players followed.

"Needless to say it was one of the toughest decisions I've been a part of, and one of the toughest meetings delivering this message to these great young men," Eichorst explained. "Much like the decision we made with the eligibility of one of our student athletes in basketball, these are institutional decisions. Head coach Al Golden and Jim Larranaga are not a part of these decisions. They were not here when these matters occurred, and they are not a part of the joint inquiry."

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TJnTN;2042389; said:
Wonder if Miami will get hammered by the talking heads at the WWLS for self sanctions like we did?

Probably won't even be reported, tbh. Anyone think tOSU should do a one year ban this year as well? I don't think the buckeye sanctions are as bad as miami's but that doesn't mean the NCAA won't butt slam them.
 
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swopes6;2042419; said:
Probably won't even be reported, tbh. Anyone think tOSU should do a one year ban this year as well? I don't think the buckeye sanctions are as bad as miami's but that doesn't mean the NCAA won't butt slam them.

No.

The NCAA didn't have the balls to ban just a fraction of the team from from a bowl game when they had the chance. Dare them to pull the trigger.
 
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