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Game Thread Miami (FL) at tOSU, Sat Sep 11, 3:40 ET, ESPN

bigbluebazooka;1743139; said:
Coker ruined our team. And the worst penalty in sports history won you that game. Just saying...


Get over it. It was a good call, and many have quoted as much.

If these calls were made, which they weren't, Ohio State rolls easily in regulation:

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Also, Gamble caught a pass near the sideline that would have converted a 3rd down in where he clearly was inbounds. He was severly interfered with during his route. If the correct call was made on that play, which it should have been since Gamble's jersey was basically ripped half off, then it is 1st down Ohio State and they run out the clock and are winners in regulation.

Watch the game again, and try to be objective about it (which I doubt you can be) and you will see that Ohio State was raped and mugged all over the field that day, yet nothing was ever called on Miami.

Ohio State won, Miami lost. You can live in your own little world and tell yourself differently, but the fact remains your team got beat fairly that day with or without any of the calls/non-calls you Cryami fans seem to overlook.
 
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I don't remember it being a done deal on running out the clock, but it sure made it statistically more likely.

I tend to focus on when the Canes failed four tries from the two. You can't get a TD in that situation, you should not be the champion.
 
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some writer said it, I dont remember who

champions stop 4th and 14 with the game on the line.....

Cryami could not stop a less than stellar passing attack from converting 4th and 14 in overtime

Cryami had plenty of chance in the overtime, Ohio State executed better though

not to mention Cryami also failing to score in 4 tries from inside the 2
 
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Gatorubet;1743350; said:
I don't remember it being a done deal on running out the clock, but it sure made it statistically more likely.

I tend to focus on when the Canes failed four tries from the two. You can't get a TD in that situation, you should not be the champion.

2:18 was left after that play, with Miami having 1 Timeout left. If Gamble had been correctly ruled down inbounds, the clock would have been running after they moved the chains. So with Tressel killing the clock, this scenario would have been likely:

1:54 left when the first down play was snapped (play clock would have started at 25 after the 1st down)
1:50 left after the first down run was stopped and Miami calls the TO
1:46 left after the 2nd down play is over
1:07 left when the 3rd down play was snapped
1:03 left when the 3rd down play was over
0:24 left when the punt was snapped
0:18 seconds left after the ball was kicked well out of bounds around the 20 yard line.

So Miami would have had a slight chance to get in FG range. Unless JT was wily enough to take an intentional false start on 2nd or 3rd down, which would have allowed tOSU to kill the clock. :wink2:
 
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BB73;1743581; said:
2:18 was left after that play, with Miami having 1 Timeout left. If Gamble had been correctly ruled down inbounds, the clock would have been running after they moved the chains. So with Tressel killing the clock, this scenario would have been likely:

1:54 left when the first down play was snapped (play clock would have started at 25 after the 1st down)
1:50 left after the first down run was stopped and Miami calls the TO
1:46 left after the 2nd down play is over
1:07 left when the 3rd down play was snapped
1:03 left when the 3rd down play was over
0:24 left when the punt was snapped
0:18 seconds left after the ball was kicked well out of bounds around the 20 yard line.

So Miami would have had a slight chance to get in FG range. Unless JT was wily enough to take an intentional false start on 2nd or 3rd down, which would have allowed tOSU to kill the clock. :wink2:

Thanks for the breakdown. I remember thinking if that's a catch (which is was) that the game was over. Couldn't believe a bigger deal wasn't made of it. But alas, it doesn't matter in the end when your team WINS!! :)
 
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2:18 was left after that play, with Miami having 1 Timeout left. If Gamble had been correctly ruled down inbounds, the clock would have been running after they moved the chains. So with Tressel killing the clock, this scenario would have been likely:

1:54 left when the first down play was snapped (play clock would have started at 25 after the 1st down)
1:50 left after the first down run was stopped and Miami calls the TO
1:46 left after the 2nd down play is over
1:07 left when the 3rd down play was snapped
1:03 left when the 3rd down play was over
0:24 left when the punt was snapped
0:18 seconds left after the ball was kicked well out of bounds around the 20 yard line.

So Miami would have had a slight chance to get in FG range. Unless JT was wily enough to take an intentional false start on 2nd or 3rd down, which would have allowed tOSU to kill the clock. :wink2:
It seems in your analysis that you are taking :39 seconds off the clock between plays.

While that is a good guess-timation, I just wanted to throw out a reminder that the game was played under the old clock rules, which featured a :25 second play clock that began after the referee placed the ball and signal for the play clock to begin. This was very subjective, but in general, after un-piling the bodies and taking their sweet time there was generally anywhere from 35-45 seconds between plays, oftentimes more.

This is unlike today's rules, where the 40 second play clock begins immediately after the play ends (which I much prefer). I remember a lot of games with the old rules in which referee's took 15-20 seconds setting the ball down for play and starting the clock and teams with the lead did their best to delay the process.

Anyway, as stated Ohio State would have been very very close to ending the game had they gotten that chance. Another MoC first down run could have done it was well :wink2:.
 
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OHSportsFan9;1743587; said:
It seems in your analysis that you are taking :39 seconds off the clock between plays.

While that is a good guess-timation, I just wanted to throw out a reminder that the game was played under the old clock rules, which featured a :25 second play clock that began after the referee placed the ball and signal for the play clock to begin. This was very subjective, but in general, after un-piling the bodies and taking their sweet time there was generally anywhere from 35-45 seconds between plays, oftentimes more.

This is unlike today's rules, where the 40 second play clock begins immediately after the play ends (which I much prefer). I remember a lot of games with the old rules in which referee's took 15-20 seconds setting the ball down for play and starting the clock and teams with the lead did their best to delay the process.

Anyway, as stated Ohio State would have been very very close to ending the game had they gotten that chance. Another MoC first down run could have done it was well :wink2:.

I knew it was under the old clock rules - I should have specified my 39 seconds was an approximation under those old rules. There would have been the unpiling stuff going on and the Miami sideline yelling to hurry things up each time.
 
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BB73;1743605; said:
I knew it was under the old clock rules - I should have specified my 39 seconds was an approximation under those old rules. There would have been the unpiling stuff going on and the Miami sideline yelling to hurry things up each time.

Great analysis. The only thing that I would add is...


fuck DA U and their bandwagon, bitchy fans.:biggrin:
 
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I knew it was under the old clock rules - I should have specified my 39 seconds was an approximation under those old rules. There would have been the unpiling stuff going on and the Miami sideline yelling to hurry things up each time.
I figured you did. Just wanted a little disclaimer for the others.

Plus, it could help enhance the "Buckeyes could have ran out the clock" angle as those old rules wasted a lot of time as I recall. :)
 
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