Thanks NorthCoast, I get that, makes infinite sense. Now, take Fickell along so after the smoozing has taken place, his position coach can show him how the staff would play him and when (and when?). In this case, too many cooks (coaches) do NOT spoil the broth. This assumes that the coaches go in there with a stable game plan, rather than 'winging it'. Urb is too polished to do otherwise. Anyone get a sense on how Daelin goes? ND has a strong draw, certainly, although I can see how the LB corps of tOSU will turn over in two years, leaving 3-4 LBs to step up, and Daelin can be one of them.....Go Bucks!