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Game Thread Marshall at tOSU, Sat. Sep. 21, 12pm ET, FOX

Legit call, but a huge break.
Wow! We got lucky!

Moment of the Game: Ohio State’s win over Marshall swung on a play that didn’t happen

Brandon Inniss was lucky not to have his turnover turn into a game-tying score.

Believe it or not, despite the fact that the Ohio State Buckeyes beat a game Marshall squad 49-14, the biggest moment of the game was not play that you will actually see the traditional stat sheet. Much like games vacated by the NCAA, it might not have technically happened, but we all saw it and remember it.

With the home team up 14-7 a few minutes into the second quarter, the Buckeye defense forced a three-and-out to get the ball back to its offense. However, an Alec Clark punt soared high into the clear, early afternoon sky above Ohio Stadium and despite seemingly having a beat on it, OSU punt returner Brandon Inniss perhaps lost it in the sun for a split second, leading to his first muffed punt of the season.

The Marshall coverage team was ready to pounce as gunner Ian Foster recovered the turnover at the 16-yard line, seemingly setting up the Thundering Herd in excellent position to potentially tie the football game.

But, in the words of Lee Corso, not so fast my friend.



The refs — who were having themselves a day almost as bad as the Buckeye defense was at times — flagged Marshall for an Illegal Formation penalty, negating the turnover and forcing Clark to punt again; this time, while shielding his eyes, Inniss successfully completed the fair catch.

As pretty much every call in this game did, it took a while for the officials to work out exactly what was going on. So, I was disappointed that the Fox broadcast didn’t bring in rules expert Dean Blandino to at least try to figure out what was going on.

Now, I am not a rules expert, and I am certainly not going to play one on the internet, so I am by no means going to say whether or not the penalty was correct, but if the call revolves around the two linemen to the right of the long-snapper not being on the line of scrimmage — as Joel Klatt speculated on the broadcast, then... I don’t know? I mean, they look like they’re not on the line of scrimmage, but also, they don’t look like they’re that far off of it.

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Just sayin': Lucky break on the call. Inniss was looking directly into the sun; in cases like that where he can't see the ball he should step aside, not try to catch it, and just be sure the ball doesn't hit him.
 
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Moment of the Game: Ohio State’s win over Marshall swung on a play that didn’t happen

Brandon Inniss was lucky not to have his turnover turn into a game-tying score.

Believe it or not, despite the fact that the Ohio State Buckeyes beat a game Marshall squad 49-14, the biggest moment of the game was not play that you will actually see the traditional stat sheet. Much like games vacated by the NCAA, it might not have technically happened, but we all saw it and remember it.

With the home team up 14-7 a few minutes into the second quarter, the Buckeye defense forced a three-and-out to get the ball back to its offense. However, an Alec Clark punt soared high into the clear, early afternoon sky above Ohio Stadium and despite seemingly having a beat on it, OSU punt returner Brandon Inniss perhaps lost it in the sun for a split second, leading to his first muffed punt of the season.

The Marshall coverage team was ready to pounce as gunner Ian Foster recovered the turnover at the 16-yard line, seemingly setting up the Thundering Herd in excellent position to potentially tie the football game.

But, in the words of Lee Corso, not so fast my friend.



The refs — who were having themselves a day almost as bad as the Buckeye defense was at times — flagged Marshall for an Illegal Formation penalty, negating the turnover and forcing Clark to punt again; this time, while shielding his eyes, Inniss successfully completed the fair catch.

As pretty much every call in this game did, it took a while for the officials to work out exactly what was going on. So, I was disappointed that the Fox broadcast didn’t bring in rules expert Dean Blandino to at least try to figure out what was going on.

Now, I am not a rules expert, and I am certainly not going to play one on the internet, so I am by no means going to say whether or not the penalty was correct, but if the call revolves around the two linemen to the right of the long-snapper not being on the line of scrimmage — as Joel Klatt speculated on the broadcast, then... I don’t know? I mean, they look like they’re not on the line of scrimmage, but also, they don’t look like they’re that far off of it.

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Just sayin': Lucky break on the call. Inniss was looking directly into the sun; in cases like that where he can't see the ball he should step aside, not try to catch it, and just be sure the ball doesn't hit him.

"they don’t look like they’re that far off of it."

Just Sayin' An inch or a foot or another full yard, they were absolutely off of the LOS. Technically, the snapper was uncovered, since the guard was ALSO off the LOS, so it was a VERY illegal formation.
 
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meh, i don’t know… from 3ppg to 6+ppg now? that’s a pretty big slide. and it was only one bs call away from being even more.

defense was far from lights out. i wouldn’t give them a B.
It was far from a BS call...

The defense was SUPER vanilla. I think they blitzed twice, and ran exactly 3 defensive line stunts all game. Marshall isn't going to remind anyone of the 80s Redskins under Joe Gibbs as an offensive line, but most teams can consistently block 3 or 4 rushers with 6 or even 7 guys.

Short zone, no blitzing and keep everything in front of you was the name of the game today. And in that, they probably get more like a C, because there really weren't any huge breakdowns, but they took literally zero chances by design, so it's kinda hard to judge.
 
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"they don’t look like they’re that far off of it."

Just Sayin' An inch or a foot or another full yard, they were absolutely off of the LOS. Technically, the snapper was uncovered, since the guard was ALSO off the LOS, so it was a VERY illegal formation.
If I remember right the rule is their hemet has to be equal with or front of the waist of the guy next to you and they are not
 
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Klatt has gotten crap from our fan base. I know some of it is warranted. However, we can all agree that today OSU's D was not their best.

What he seemed to realize by the 4th quarter, is that OSU's run game is legit, and because of it, he concluded that he doesn't know how future opponents can stop it. My take is between the weapons and scheme, it can impose it's will on anybody.

He also clarified the $20 mill, and that OSU only brought in 7 transfers. That the slam on OSU is fake.

He also was very complimentary about Hartline.

Though I think his take on Scum's cheating scandal are stupid, I also don't think some criticism of OSU was without some merit.
He's a HUGE Buckeye Homer on his show every week. Like Herbie he often sounds to me to purposely be Devils Advocate on his in- game commentary. I mean he and Gus' "World Famous Ohio State Buckeyes" are firmly on the bandwagon. Guys are just making their money however it comes.
 
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After a long review just before halftime, this catch by Marshall's Elijah Metcalf was ruled a touchdown.







OK, I was in the stadium and didn't get all the close up shots and/or replays, etc. Did TV actually show a close up shot that confirmed he was inbounds?
 
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After a long review just before halftime, this catch by Marshall's Elijah Metcalf was ruled a touchdown.







OK, I was in the stadium and didn't get all the close up shots and/or replays, etc. Did TV actually show a close up shot that confirmed he was inbounds?

It was seriously the closest you can get to that end line and the shadow made it near impossible to see100%
 
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After a long review just before halftime, this catch by Marshall's Elijah Metcalf was ruled a touchdown.







OK, I was in the stadium and didn't get all the close up shots and/or replays, etc. Did TV actually show a close up shot that confirmed he was inbounds?

That was so so close. From the front it looks out. From the back/side he looks maybe in. Unless you can zoom that backside view in a lot, you can't really be positive.
 
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Offense was explosive.
Defense was vanilla.
Special Teams were very unspecial.
I dont know, guy managed to kick three straight kickoffs out of bounds in one half.That’s pretty special. Pissed he didnt get the chance to make it 4.kinda like pulling a pitcher whose got a no hitter through 7 cause he’s reached 100 in his pitch count.
 
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It was far from a BS call...

The defense was SUPER vanilla. I think they blitzed twice, and ran exactly 3 defensive line stunts all game. Marshall isn't going to remind anyone of the 80s Redskins under Joe Gibbs as an offensive line, but most teams can consistently block 3 or 4 rushers with 6 or even 7 guys.

Short zone, no blitzing and keep everything in front of you was the name of the game today. And in that, they probably get more like a C, because there really weren't any huge breakdowns, but they took literally zero chances by design, so it's kinda hard to judge.
i agree with a “C”.

bs call means that whatever the infraction was had basically zero to do with innis getting bailed out of muffing the punt. a pivotal TD gets wiped off the scoreboard for something absolutely unrelated to the formation.

but… yeah… C sounds about right.

i don’t have an issue with keeping things in front of you. you can play soft and keep things in front of you and still not give up two touchdowns.
 
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i agree with a “C”.

bs call means that whatever the infraction was had basically zero to do with innis getting bailed out of muffing the punt. a pivotal TD gets wiped off the scoreboard for something absolutely unrelated to the formation.

but… yeah… C sounds about right.

i don’t have an issue with keeping things in front of you. you can play soft and keep things in front of you and still not give up two touchdowns.
1 TD
 
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