Luger dies in Olympic training-run crash

[BUCKYLE]

Listen... i know what u guys are saying... i know what ur thinking.. i feel awful for him.. but he left life doing what he loved.. thank god. if you cant allow him to die.. realizing wht he needed to do.. then leave it alone... go ahead and judge me.. im ok with it. fuck you! go bucks!

 

[BB73]

Yeah. We ain't cut from the same cloth. It's about quality, not quantity. But that's me.

I like to search for common ground.

David Carradine had a good death by either standard - an old bastard that died while getting himself off, something he'd surely done thousands of times (in one way or another).

 

[CentralMOBuck]

Damn putting up that wall sure was an easy fix.......

They moved the start gate down the hill and they are still going 90+ mph at the end. Which is where they guy wrecked right?

 

[BUCKYLE]

Damn putting up that wall sure was an easy fix.......

They moved the start gate down the hill and they are still going 90+ mph at the end. Which is where they guy wrecked right?

Yes, and of course, all of the other lugers aren't racing because of the fear of death.

 

[jwinslow]

They aren't mutually exclusive.

Endings are sad, even if inevitable.

Those same endings can be ideal, whether dying doing what they love, escaping a battle with cancer, or simply having lived a full life and the deceased being ready.

Listen... i know what u guys are saying... i know what ur thinking.. i feel awful for him.. but he left life doing what he loved.. thank god. if you cant allow him to die.. realizing wht he needed to do.. then leave it alone... go ahead and judge me.. im ok with it. fuck you! go bucks!

 

[BUCKYLE]

They aren't mutually exclusive.

Endings are sad, even if inevitable.

Those same endings can be ideal, whether dying doing what they love, escaping a battle with cancer, or simply having lived a full life and the deceased being ready.

You show me someone ready to die and I'll show you a liar. Even someone who wasted their life doesn't WANT to die. The fact remains that we all will...at a time that is most inconvienient for us. You can't choose when you go...but you can choose to live every fucking minute as if you were gonna go the next. Racing down an iced over hill is equivalent to poking the fucking grim reaper in the eye. Dying isn't what you'd hoped for, but you had to've known it was a fuckin' possibility. The fact that you continued to do said activity, knowing full well the risks involved...to me...means that death was a risk that motherfucker was willing to take.

 

[jlb1705]

I've read the joint statement from VANOC and the luge federation - basically saying it was the kid's fault. In the technical sense he did commit mistakes that led to the crash. But as that statement was being made, they were building a wall to cover the area where the athlete left the track. To me that's disingenuous. If that was was there yesterday (and to me it's plain to see that they should've thought to put one there before the track opened two years ago) the kid would have wrecked, but he's probably still be alive.

I'm watching them make their runs tonight - aside from the wall they've shortened the track - It lowers the speed some but it's completely changed the competition. I've seen several wrecks tonight, and part of it seems to be that the changes have made the track unfamiliar. I know they have lots of competition to fit in over two weeks - luge, bobsled & skeleton for men and women. It seems to me though that they've traded one set of problems for another. I think the wiser move would've been to postpone some of the competition (or shuffle some schedules) and allow for some additional time for that athletes to train and accommodate themselves to the new configuration.

 

[jwinslow]

You show me someone ready to die and I'll show you a liar.

I've known some. Some who were 80 and made peace with living a full life. Another who was 45 and had a long battle with breast cancer and took a long time to come to terms with it. Another who was born with a terminal illness and wasn't expected to live past 20-25 but had the maturity and courage of about 10 sixty year olds put together.

We can talk all day about personal opinions about the meaning of life... the value of dying well... whether this or that seems stupid, but you're in dangerous territory calling deceased folks liars.

p.s. What happened to you not having fear about death? Nothing wrong with that, it's a very natural human emotion, one I hold despite what I believe about the afterlife.

You can't choose when you go...but you can choose to live every fucking minute as if you were gonna go the next. Racing down an iced over hill is equivalent to poking the fucking grim reaper in the eye. Dying isn't what you'd hoped for, but you had to've known it was a fuckin' possibility. The fact that you continued to do said activity, knowing full well the risks involved...to me...means that death was a risk that motherfucker was willing to take.

No one is saying he didn't know the risk, just that it doesn't change whether it is sad.

Even when someone chooses to sacrifice their life to save another... whether it is in in the army, pushing someone out of the way of danger, etc... and they die with a courageous and purposeful death, it can still be sad. They're two separate things.

If the death seems senseless, it often seems more sad, but they don't have the market cornered on sorrow over death.

 

[Tonyank]

I wanna die while fuucking Bucklye's sister......

 

[Gatorubet]

I wanna die [strike]while[/strike] from fuucking Bucklye's sister......

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

You think he ever thought, "Man, I hope when I go, it's by going back-of-the-neck-first into a steel pole at 90 MPH on a luge run." I don't.

I think he was thinking I want to go out with a heart attack after winning the Gold in the luge, while sitting in a hot tub in Vancouver with an 8-ball of the finest Tony Montana [censored] on the planet up my nose while having a five-way with four Norwegian Ice Dancers that I scored after the medal ceremony.

That's how he wanted to die; because, that's how he rolled.

 

[Gatorubet]

That's how he wanted to die; because, that's how he rolled.

No. This is how he rolled. Luger dies in Olympic training-run crash - Olympic Sports- nbcsports.msnbc.com

 

[BUCKYLE]

Even when someone chooses to sacrifice their life to save another... whether it is in in the army, pushing someone out of the way of danger, etc... and they die with a courageous and purposeful death, it can still be sad. They're two separate things.

If the death seems senseless, it often seems more sad, but they don't have the market cornered on sorrow over death.

To me, a sad death would've been a curler slipping on the ice and breaking his neck. Going 90mph lying on your back two inches off an iced over trail just screams "some bad shit is probably gonna happen". It's not unexpected to me...in fact, I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often. If it were more than just an olympic sport, it probably would've been banned by now.

 

[BB73]

To me, a sad death would've been a curler slipping on the ice and breaking his neck. Going 90mph lying on your back two inches off an iced over trail just screams "some bad shit is probably gonna happen". It's not unexpected to me...in fact, I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often. If it were more than just an olympic sport, it probably would've been banned by now.

OK, I'm trying to understand.

Curler = sad, since it's so slow moving for the competitors

Luger = somewhat expected, and no reason to be sad because it's what he loved

Are these clear-cut, or should I mourn them since they fall into a gray area?

- Hockey player dies after being hit in the forehead with a puck.
- Speed skater cuts femoral artery with skate blade and bleeds out.
- Snowboarder hit in the head by another boarder and killed on impact.
- Ski jumper hit by traffic helicopter that was in a restricted area by mistake
- Ice dancers collide during warmup, end up on life support.

 

[Gatorubet]

OK, I'm trying to understand.

Curler = sad, since it's so slow moving for the competitors

Luger = somewhat expected, and no reason to be sad because it's what he loved

Are these clear-cut, or should I mourn them since they fall into a gray area?

- Hockey player dies after being hit in the forehead with a puck.
- Speed skater cuts femoral artery with skate blade and bleeds out.
- Snowboarder hit in the head by another boarder and killed on impact.
- Ski jumper hit by traffic helicopter that was in a restricted area by mistake
- Ice dancers collide during warmup, end up on life support.

- Heroin addict ODing on a drug that he really seemed to like.