Louisville 25, RUTGERS 28 (Final)

[thackattack]

Specifically, the comment was that 10 SEC teams turned down scheduling games against Louisville.

Thanks for the clarification, BB73. On top of things, as usual.

 

[holybuckeye33]

ALL Big East schools need to go out and schedule games against the SEC, Big 10, Big XII, Pac - 10, etc. and then I will consider them a legit BCS conference. As of this year the entire conference's biggest road win was... at Navy!!

If they want any shot at being a part of the BCS they need to scheulde non-conferene games against BCS conferences, and win!

Big East

Cincinnati:
@Va Tech-L
@OSU-L

UConn:
Wake Forest-L
@Indiana-W

Louisville:
Kentucky-W
Miami-W
@Kansas St.-W

Pittsburgh:
Virginia-W
Michigan St.-L

Rutgers:
@North Carolina-W
Illinois-W

South Florida:
@Kansas-L
@UNC-W

Syracuse:
@Wake Forest-L
Iowa-L
@Illinois-W

WVU:
Maryland-W
@Miss St.-W

Big Twelve

Nebraska:
@ USC - L

Missouri:
Mississippi - W

K State:
Louisville - L

Kansas:
South Florida - W

Colorado:
ASU - L
@Georgia - L

Iowa St.:
@Iowa - L

Texas:
Ohio State - L

Oklahoma:
Washington - W
@Oregon - L

Texas A&M:
None

Texas Tech:
None

Baylor:
@Washington St. - L

Oklahoma St:
None

Each Big East school played an average of 2.25 OOC games against BCS schools
10 road games - 8 home games
Combined Record vs. BCS schools - 11-7
Winning Perct. of BCS schools beaten - .390 (41-64)
Winning Perct. of BCS schools lost to - .716 (48-19)
(In calculating the winning percentage, if a certain BCS school played two different Big East schools, then their record was counted the same amount as times played)

Each Big Twelve school played an average of .92 OOC games against BCS schools
5 road games - 6 home games
Combined Record vs. BCS schools - 3-8
Winning Perct. of BCS schools beaten(all 3 of em) - .448 (13-16)
Winning Perct. of BCS schools lost to - .737 (56-20)

 

[sandgk]

There was a post earlier in this threa that speculated that one contributory cause of the scheduling refusals was Louisville's request that the games be home-and-home, which would lead to poor returns in the cramped confines of Papa John.
EDIT - The actual post was from DaddyBigBucks in the Louisville Bandwagon thread.

I have heard (but not confirmed) that the reason numerous schools denied Louisville's request to get on their schedule is because Louisville was insisting on a home-and-home situation (home-and-away if you prefer that terminology). That's just not very lucrative when Papa John Stadium holds less than 50,000 people.

Obviously something could be worked out financially; but you would think that if Louisville were willing to pony up that kind of dough on a regular basis, they would just build a bigger house.

 

[holybuckeye33]

Big Ten (I'll even count ND, which helps the Big Ten's stats immensely)

Ohio State:
@Texas - W
Cincinnati - W

Michigan:
Vanderbilt - W
@ND - W

Wisconsin:
None

Penn St.:
@ND - L

Purdue:
@ND - L

Indiana:
UConn - L

Iowa:
@Syracuse - W
Iowa St. - W

Michigan St.
@Pittsburgh - W
ND - L

Minnesota:
@Cal - L

NW:
None

Illinois:
@Rutgers - L
Syracuse - L

Each Big Ten school played an average of 1.27 OOC games against BCS schools (even worse if you throw out ND)
8 road games - 6 home games
Combined Record vs. BCS schools - 7-7 (good thing for OSU, scum and Iowa)
Winning Perct. of BCS schools beaten- .576 (38-28)
Winning Perct. of BCS schools lost to - .758 (47-15)

 

[holybuckeye33]

ACC

Wake Forest:
Syracuse - W
@UConn - W
@Mississippi - W

Maryland:
@WVU - L

BC:
None

Clemson:
South Carolina - yet to play

FSU:
Florida - yet to play

N.C. State:
None

Ga. Tech:
ND - L
Georgia - yet to play

Va. Tech:
Cincinnati - W

Virginia:
@Pitt - L

Miami:
@Louisville - L

UNC:
Rutgers - L
South Florida - L
@ND - L

Duke:
@Bama - L
Vanderbilt - L

Each ACC school played an average of 1.33 OOC games against BCS schools
7 road games - 9 home games
Combined Record vs. BCS schools - 4-9-3
Winning Perct. of BCS schools beaten - .388 (14-22)
Winning Perct. of BCS schools lost to - .756 (62-20)

 

[BB73]

Sagarin's rankings are updated after last night's games.

usatoday.sagarin

For the ELO-CHESS, the one which is used as one of the 6 BCS computers:

01. TSUN
02. tOSU
03. Rutgers
04. ND
05. Cal
06. USC
07. Auburn
08. Florida
09. Arkansas
10, Wisconsin
11. Louisville
12. Boise St.
13. Texas

 

[DCBuckFan]

That is amazing to me... completely amazing. No chance Texas is worse than anyone on that list not named Flordia

 

[Dryden]

Sagarin's rankings are updated after last night's games.

usatoday.sagarin

For the ELO-CHESS, the one which is used as one of the 6 BCS computers:

01. TSUN
02. tOSU
03. Rutgers
04. ND
05. Cal
06. USC
07. Auburn
08. Florida
09. Arkansas
10, Wisconsin
11. Louisville
12. Boise St.
13. Texas

Rutgers still has Cincy and WVU to play.

This is what happens when you eliminate points and spreads. Under Sagarin's old methodology Rutgers would be ranked #21 and Louisville #5, regardless the head to head.

 

[Dryden]

Interesting note that the Collegio (coolest piece of software ever written) update which was released yesterday ranked Rutgers #3 and Louisville #4, even before the two played, and had Rutgers ranked as a 70% chance to win.

 

[crazybuckfan40]

Big East

Cincinnati:
@Va Tech-L
@OSU-L

UConn:
Wake Forest-L
@Indiana-W

Louisville:
Kentucky-W
Miami-W
@Kansas St.-W

Pittsburgh:
Virginia-W
Michigan St.-W

Rutgers:
@North Carolina-W
Illinois-W

South Florida:
@Kansas-L
@UNC-W

Syracuse:
@Wake Forest-L
Iowa-L
@Illinois-W

WVU:
Maryland-W
@Miss St.-W

MSU beat Pitt.

Also the only team that actually scheduled a team that is in the top half of their league was Cincy. Also there were a couple teams that scheuduled Wake Forest, but I have a hard time considering them an elite team, even if they are having a good year.

 

[bucknut4life]

Sagarin's rankings are updated after last night's games.

usatoday.sagarin

For the ELO-CHESS, the one which is used as one of the 6 BCS computers:

01. TSUN
02. tOSU
03. Rutgers
04. ND
05. Cal
06. USC
07. Auburn
08. Florida
09. Arkansas
10, Wisconsin
11. Louisville
12. Boise St.
13. Texas

how does arkansas get a higher ranking than wisky, when wisky has a better SOS and they both have one loss?

 

[holybuckeye33]

MSU beat Pitt.

Also the only team that actually scheduled a team that is in the top half of their league was Cincy. Also there were a couple teams that scheuduled Wake Forest, but I have a hard time considering them an elite team, even if they are having a good year.

Good catch, change reflected above. As to your second paragraph, I can't agree. Maryland is tied for the lead in its division of the ACC. Also if you're not going to give credit to teams that played Wake during a good year, you can't take away from teams that scheduled Miami, K. State, and Iowa who are all having subpar years compared to their recent success.

 

[holybuckeye33]

Figured I might as well round out the conferences.

SEC

Florida:
@FSU - yet to play

Tennessee:
Cal - W

Kentucky:
@Louisville - L

Georgia:
Colorado - W
Ga. Tech - yet to play

South Carolina:
@Clemson - yet to play

Vanderbilt:
@Michigan - L
@Duke - L

Arkansas:
USC - L

Auburn:
Wash St. - W

LSU:
Arizona - W

Bama:
Duke - W

Miss.:
@Missouri - L
Wake Forest - L

Miss. St.:
WVU - L

Each SEC school played an average of 1.25 OOC games against BCS schools
6 road games - 9 home games
Combined Record vs. BCS schools - 6-6-3
Winning Perct. of BCS schools beaten - .339 (19-37)
Winning Perct. of BCS schools lost to - .870 (47-7)

PAC 10

Cal:
@Tennessee - L
Minnesota - W

USC:
@Arkansas - W
Nebraska - W
ND - yet to play

Oregon:
Oklahoma - W

Oregon St.:
None

Wash. St.:
@Auburn - L
Baylor - W

Arizona St.:
@Colorado - W

Arizona:
@LSU - L

UCLA:
ND- L

Washington:
@Oklahoma - L

Stanford:
@ND - L

Each PAC 10 school played an average of 1.3 OOC games against BCS schools
7 road games - 6 home games
Combined Record vs. BCS schools - 6-6-1
Winning Perct. of BCS schools beaten - .534 (31-27)
Winning Perct. of BCS schools lost to - .836 (46-9)

 

[Steve19]

Sagarin's rankings are updated after last night's games.

usatoday.sagarin

For the ELO-CHESS, the one which is used as one of the 6 BCS computers:

01. TSUN
02. tOSU
03. Rutgers
04. ND
05. Cal
06. USC
07. Auburn
08. Florida
09. Arkansas
10, Wisconsin
11. Louisville
12. Boise St.
13. Texas

That is the ELO Chess version which only serves to meet the BCS criteria. It does not allow direct entry of score difference between teams and is mainly a measure of the win-loss percentage of the teams you play and the teams they played.

Rather use this link http://www.kiva.net/~jsagarin/sports/cfsend.htm or open the pdf file I have inserted.

The Sagarin predictor column is the one to look at if you want to predict the result between two teams: Rutgers #21! Texas is more than a 10 point favorite over Rutgers and Ohio State more than two touchdowns.