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Thump said:
Not me! I like shaming them into playing the blues.
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I don't know anyone in my family, save my oldest cousin, who belong on the blue tees (All shoot 90+ on the whites)

I'd rather see my family happy on the whites than miserable on the blues.

This is the way I see it:

Average 85+ on the whites: Play white
Average 80-85 on the whites: Play blue
Average 80-90 on the blues: Play blue
Average 80- on the blues: Play black
 
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Golferdow01 said:
Hawg-

Not to place blame elsewhere, but what about your golf swing? Irons are of all degrees of loft, but are fairly consistent throughout the market.

I think you need to take a lesson witha golf professional and have them analyze your swing. They could tell you if new clubs would solve your problem or if you need to tweak your swing.

I know whenever I start skying my irons that I'm breaking my wrists too early on the follow-through when my wrists should be leading the clubhead throughout the entire swing.

I don't want to see you spending a lot of money on something that might not solve your problem.
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I'm sure my swing has plenty of problems, but from trying out the X-18's yesterday I could tell that the ball wasn't gaining altitude as quickly as with my Bertha's. As I said in another post my clubs are a little too short so it won't hurt to get some new longer ones. The only clubs I can hit reasonably well are irons and my Walmart special driving iron so I think that swing is far less screwed up than my driver swing, which is pretty hopeless. The distance on my irons is pretty good, but would be a little better if I took some height off of my shot. My wedges will take more practice since it's all touch, which I don't have most of the time.
On a good day right now I can put my driving iron out 200-250 pretty straight. My irons are usually within 20-30 yards of where I'm aiming as long as I don't mishit (20% of my shots). Chipping is my biggest issue. Putting is usually one of the better aspects of my game. I'd say my biggest problem overall is eye hand coordination, but the only way around that is practice.
 
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I just bought X-18 pro series. I'm a big fan of callaway irons. before these I had the X-16 proseries. I would have kept them, but they didn't have the right shafts.
The X-16 had rifle 7.0 shafts, which I thought I hit fine. When I had them sized properly I found I need an extra inch and not as stiff. I now have rifle 6.0 in my clubs, and I can take a little more control swing and get the same distance.

As far as training devices. I do have the medicus, and think it helps with my irons.
I did just buy an inside approach knock off of ebay this morning. Hopefully it will help me hit a draw with my driver.
 
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exhawg said:
I'm sure my swing has plenty of problems, but from trying out the X-18's yesterday I could tell that the ball wasn't gaining altitude as quickly as with my Bertha's. As I said in another post my clubs are a little too short so it won't hurt to get some new longer ones. The only clubs I can hit reasonably well are irons and my Walmart special driving iron so I think that swing is far less screwed up than my driver swing, which is pretty hopeless. The distance on my irons is pretty good, but would be a little better if I took some height off of my shot. My wedges will take more practice since it's all touch, which I don't have most of the time.
On a good day right now I can put my driving iron out 200-250 pretty straight. My irons are usually within 20-30 yards of where I'm aiming as long as I don't mishit (20% of my shots). Chipping is my biggest issue. Putting is usually one of the better aspects of my game. I'd say my biggest problem overall is eye hand coordination, but the only way around that is practice.
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Taking your height into consideration (6'4"?) you need extra long shafts on your clubs...all of them. I'm not sure if that's the reason you're skying your irons, but I personally like hitting the iron high. You get much better control and spin with a high shot. I'm also going to assume you hit the ball a mile with your height.
 
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exhawg said:
Dicks has a room you can try clubs in. That's where I went yesterday.
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It isn't the same as getting out there and hitting a few buckets off the turf. The more you hit the more your swing flaws show, then you can make a correct pairing with your swing. It is just my opinion, but the showroom isn't much of a guage.

Check this out.

 
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scarletandgrey said:
I plan on taking a lesson or two. But that wasn't the question. The reason I want a swing aid is for a before round quick refresher or even during the middle of the round when I get a little goofy with the swing again.
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One help I got from a pro to help encourage an more of an inside swing path was to take 4 or 5 tees and stick them into the ground so about an inch is above the ground. Put them in a line going back starting just outside your ball and back about 6-8 inches. Now when you swing, try to make sure you do not clip the tees on the way down.
 
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Folanator said:
It isn't the same as getting out there and hitting a few buckets off the turf. The more you hit the more your swing flaws show, then you can make a correct pairing with your swing. It is just my opinion, but the showroom isn't much of a guage.

Check this out.
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I checked the demo days, but here the soonest one is mid May and I am going to have several outings before that.
 
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SIMV, if a fitter is basing your clubs' specs on your physical measurements (height, wrist-to-ground, etc) just walk away before you waste your money.

Do what FindlayBucks did and get a DYNAMIC fitting. the thing that matters most is where your clubhead is at impact while you are actually hitting a golf shot.

I was a custom fitter for Henry Griffitts, and one of the first things i learned was how much your clubs affect your ability to learn and groove a good golf swing.

As far as length is concerned, the main factor is your skill level - your ability to hit the ball on the sweet spot. go with as long a club as you can effectively hit the sweet spot with. length also affects the effective lie angle, and is one of the way to adjust that spec. I, myself am only 5'9' and my clubs are 1" longer than standard.

As far as shaft flex goes - again, if the fitter is basing it solely on how far you hit the ball - walk away. the main factor there is how you load the shaft. For example, Jack Nicklaus hit the ball a mile, but his swing was more of a "gravity" swing as far as his change of direction and his first move down. his "loading" of the shaft was more gradual. So he only ever needed S300 shafts (your basic stiff flex). Lanny Wadkins, on the other hand, had a very fast tempo swing, and put alot of stress on the shaft during his change of direction from backswing to downswing, and his first move down, so he needed X-Stiff shafts. however, Nicklaus hit the ball WAY farther than Wadkins.

having said all that, also bear in mind that most guys out there are using clubs with too stiff of a shaft, and not enough loft on their drivers.

If you are serious about the game, get a dynamic fitting and get some clubs made to those specs (and don't let your ego get in the way)
 
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SIMV,

I would strongly agree with Nightmares Dad. I would also suggest you keep using what you have until you have actually developed a swing that is yours and consistent. You have not been playing long enough to develop any type of repeatable swing, good or bad. If I were you I would spend your money on a few lessons and try to figure out what kind of swing you are going to have. Then go get fitted for some clubs.
 
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I was fitted at Golf Galaxy when I picked up my new titleist 735's back in early march.

Lessons are huge, huge help.

Me though, I need a new brain as I suffer from cant-bring-the-range-game-to-the-course syndrome
 
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exhawg said:
Length, swing speed, cost, etc aren't an issue since I know the first two and I'll be getting knockoffs so they are cheaper than the real thing. At my height I could never buy anything off the rack and it is hard to find used equipment at the length I need as well. I though my inch over standard irons were fine until DA told me they were too short last year. The sole is also too big on the Bertha's which makes me get too much loft on all my irons. I'm just trying to find out what irons would be best for me or if anyone has used X-18's and what they think.
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i can relate at 6-7 i have longer clubs, but not nearly long enough. i play knock offs also. for as much as i play, and really i play only to relax and have a good time (even though im competitive i consider it a leisure hobby). they cost me a ton and i get laughed at for how short they are. one time i didnt have my clubs and used the rental pos clubs and i felt like i was playing with toothpicks. my clubs arent long enough and i refuse to shell out the kinda dough needed for a 6-7 to have what for you guys would consider an "average" or below avg set of sticks.
 
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Per the PGA
5 things that influence distance and direction:

angle of approach
centerdness of contact
width of arch
swing speed
swing direction

Best I've ever played is with some Dunlop Tour Medallion, the Tommy Armour 845s, but now I have Callaways, and that's all I have to say about that.

PS decided not to read this whole thread

Learn what causes what...that's the best advise
 
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