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Look Who's Transferring Now (The Portal)

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AuTX Buckeye said:


interesting and possibly 100% accurate assessment… do you want crapshoot OL or guys who have been in college and you’ve seen play
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This is what I have been arguing.

Beyond that first level of elite prospects are a ton of kids who will be two or three years in the making, all while occupying a roster spot. Some never pan out. That transfer may only be around 1 or 2 years but you are getting a contribution immediately.

But what a dance you must do. Don't offend the incoming recruits because your transfer leverage is gone. That 4 star junior who is now ready to fulfill his promise may hear the siren song of another coach.

It will be interesting to see if the early signing period triggers another round of transfers.
 
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The new NCAA minor leagues is any school not in the P5 conferences and possibly any school not in the Elite level. Once OSU, Bama, UGA, USC and maybe a couple others only start recruiting High 4 and 5 Star talent, they can wait for the others to go to other schools and find out who pans out from High School and then poach away. They should have just given college players a stipend across the board based on some criteria but this now will be the end of college sports as we knew it.
 
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Bestbuck36 said:
The new NCAA minor leagues is any school not in the P5 conferences and possibly any school not in the Elite level. Once OSU, Bama, UGA, USC and maybe a couple others only start recruiting High 4 and 5 Star talent, they can wait for the others to go to other schools and find out who pans out from High School and then poach away. They should have just given college players a stipend across the board based on some criteria but this now will be the end of college sports as we knew it.
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I'm interested to see how all of this impacts viewership/attendance figures and just general fandom as we wade into this new era. It's gonna be the wild west every December. I can't imagine it moves the needle much on most younger fans because it's essentially just making CFB the same as any pro sport where players jump teams all the time. However, how do the old school fans now in their 40s and up who grew up loving the CFB game because it was steeped in tradition, rivalries, pagentry, etc. feel about it? I can only speak for myself, but my interest is dwindling. I know it's what is best for the athletes and I know it was inevitable, but on a selfish level, it irks me that the 5* QB that you got all excited about will not wait his turn because his NIL demands that he play. "Irks" might be the wrong word, because I don't blame the kids one bit, but it disappoints/frustrates me that we have arrived at this point. It is ruining (for me) the sport I have loved above all others for 30+ years.

Great for the kids, bad for "get off my lawn" fans like me. It's basically just another pro league now and that is "meh" to me.
 
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NFBuck said:
I'm interested to see how all of this impacts viewership/attendance figures and just general fandom as we wade into this new era. It's gonna be the wild west every December. I can't imagine it moves the needle much on most younger fans because it's essentially just making CFB the same as any pro sport where players jump teams all the time. However, how do the old school fans now in their 40s and up who grew up loving the CFB game because it was steeped in tradition, rivalries, pagentry, etc. feel about it? I can only speak for myself, but my interest is dwindling. I know it's what is best for the athletes and I know it was inevitable, but on a selfish level, it irks me that the 5* QB that you got all excited about will not wait his turn because his NIL demands that he play. "Irks" might be the wrong word, because I don't blame the kids one bit, but it disappoints/frustrates me that we have arrived at this point. It is ruining (for me) the sport I have loved above all others for 30+ years.

Great for the kids, bad for "get off my lawn" fans like me. It's basically just another pro league now and that is "meh" to me.
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I use to sit down every Saturday at like 9am and was glued until 10pm…. now i’m like “oh OSU’s playing a MAC school and I can’t get it over the air, she honey lets go curtain shopping”
 
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NFBuck said:
I'm interested to see how all of this impacts viewership/attendance figures and just general fandom as we wade into this new era. It's gonna be the wild west every December. I can't imagine it moves the needle much on most younger fans because it's essentially just making CFB the same as any pro sport where players jump teams all the time. However, how do the old school fans now in their 40s and up who grew up loving the CFB game because it was steeped in tradition, rivalries, pagentry, etc. feel about it? I can only speak for myself, but my interest is dwindling. I know it's what is best for the athletes and I know it was inevitable, but on a selfish level, it irks me that the 5* QB that you got all excited about will not wait his turn because his NIL demands that he play. "Irks" might be the wrong word, because I don't blame the kids one bit, but it disappoints/frustrates me that we have arrived at this point. It is ruining (for me) the sport I have loved above all others for 30+ years.

Great for the kids, bad for "get off my lawn" fans like me. It's basically just another pro league now and that is "meh" to me.
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I'm an over 50 guy so I'll give my .02

I think this wailing and gnashing of teeth is over blown. What's changed about the rivalries or pageantry of CFB? I still want to see the guys wearing Scarlet and Gray kill everyone else, especially the ones wearing Maize and Blue.

Names may change, team is the same to me.

How they get kids, NIL money and the transfer portal is the job of the coach and admins. My expectation stays the same there too. Find a way to be elite or fuck off home for the next guy who can.

What's really any different about any of that?
 
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Jaxbuck said:
I'm an over 50 guy so I'll give my .02

I think this wailing and gnashing of teeth is over blown. What's changed about the rivalries or pageantry of CFB? I still want to see the guys wearing Scarlet and Gray kill everyone else, especially the ones wearing Maize and Blue.

Names may change, team is the same to me.

How they get kids, NIL money and the transfer portal is the job of the coach and admins. My expectation stays the same there too. Find a way to be elite or fuck off home for the next guy who can.

What's really any different about any of that?
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For me it's more about the change that is coming as this is just the start. The foreshadowing of something awful is the thing that has me the most dissatisfied, not that it has happened in full force yet. Nothing will every change my mind about all things OSU unless it comes out they've been feeding babies to pedophile island for the past 30 years, so that will stay the same. It's just the disruption to one of the things I've always loved most in life and I don't like it. To each his own I guess.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
I'm an over 50 guy so I'll give my .02

I think this wailing and gnashing of teeth is over blown. What's changed about the rivalries or pageantry of CFB? I still want to see the guys wearing Scarlet and Gray kill everyone else, especially the ones wearing Maize and Blue.

Names may change, team is the same to me.

How they get kids, NIL money and the transfer portal is the job of the coach and admins. My expectation stays the same there too. Find a way to be elite or fuck off home for the next guy who can.

What's really any different about any of that?
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As someone over 70 I will share what I think is different about so many things that have happened in the past few years.

Woody Hayes never made more than $43,000. There were a lot of things important to Woody, but money was not at the top of the list.

Now we are seeing $100,000,000 contracts. Eight fucking zeros. Today's coaches may not be all about the money, but those numbers will attract coaches who are.

Before the start of national championship games kids came to the B1G to play in the Rose Bowl. Now they sit out of bowl games to prep for NFL combines.

How many Buckeye legends can you think of who played for another college team prior to a few years ago? Archie was a Buckeye. Always will be. Is Burrows a Buckeye? Fields? Ewers?

I am an OSU grad, blessed to be in the same graduating class as the super Sophs of 1968. I literally ran into John Brockington at a bar once - thought I had hit a wall. (I can still pick up the phone anytime and call Rex Kern just to hear him say: "Once more and I am filing a restraining order!".)

Point being, these were real people, real student athletes. The UM fans were taunting us about Fields taking only online classes. But what was his connection to the university beyond football?

Where are the college traditions when we are on the verge of rooting for Hessian mercenaries.

The players earning their value seems only right. And I have argued for it even though I knew where it would likely take us. I just don't want to go there.

And I recognize my role. My subscription to Youtube TV helps fund ESPN and BTN. I drink Dr Pepper (not really, but it works better in making my point to say that I do). It is the zealotry that started with my college experience and has only grown larger with every game delivered to my 77" OLED that pays the mercenaries and their coaches.

I recognize that the only real connection I have ever had with these players was the time I ran into Brockington. But it has always been easy to pretend it was more than that. That this was my team and I was somehow a part of it.

I am weak. I will keep watching on Saturdays. I will wear my scarlet and gray and talk recruiting to anyone who will listen.

But it is not the same.
 
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Oh8ch said:
This is what I have been arguing.

Beyond that first level of elite prospects are a ton of kids who will be two or three years in the making, all while occupying a roster spot. Some never pan out. That transfer may only be around 1 or 2 years but you are getting a contribution immediately.

But what a dance you must do. Don't offend the incoming recruits because your transfer leverage is gone. That 4 star junior who is now ready to fulfill his promise may hear the siren song of another coach.

It will be interesting to see if the early signing period triggers another round of transfers.
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I hear u, but OSU also doesn't want to rely on guys in the portal who have ran away from competition at their previous school. Like Day said, "it has to be a good fit".

And everytime u bring someone in, is it going to ruffle the feathers of the existing players on the roster @ the same position?
 
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Oh8ch said:
As someone over 70 I will share what I think is different about so many things that have happened in the past few years.

Woody Hayes never made more than $43,000. There were a lot of things important to Woody, but money was not at the top of the list.

Now we are seeing $100,000,000 contracts. Eight fucking zeros. Today's coaches may not be all about the money, but those numbers will attract coaches who are.

Before the start of national championship games kids came to the B1G to play in the Rose Bowl. Now they sit out of bowl games to prep for NFL combines.

How many Buckeye legends can you think of who played for another college team prior to a few years ago? Archie was a Buckeye. Always will be. Is Burrows a Buckeye? Fields? Ewers?

I am an OSU grad, blessed to be in the same graduating class as the super Sophs of 1968. I literally ran into John Brockington at a bar once - thought I had hit a wall. (I can still pick up the phone anytime and call Rex Kern just to hear him say: "Once more and I am filing a restraining order!".)

Point being, these were real people, real student athletes. The UM fans were taunting us about Fields taking only online classes. But what was his connection to the university beyond football?

Where are the college traditions when we are on the verge of rooting for Hessian mercenaries.

The players earning their value seems only right. And I have argued for it even though I knew where it would likely take us. I just don't want to go there.

And I recognize my role. My subscription to Youtube TV helps fund ESPN and BTN. I drink Dr Pepper (not really, but it works better in making my point to say that I do). It is the zealotry that started with my college experience and has only grown larger with every game delivered to my 77" OLED that pays the mercenaries and their coaches.

I recognize that the only real connection I have ever had with these players was the time I ran into Brockington. But it has always been easy to pretend it was more than that. That this was my team and I was somehow a part of it.

I am weak. I will keep watching on Saturdays. I will wear my scarlet and gray and talk recruiting to anyone who will listen.

But it is not the same.
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I hear you but I guarantee there were people in the early 70's decrying freshmen being able to play. I recall vividly these same type of phrases being thrown around when Pete Rose broke the $100K barrier as a free agent. Baseball was dead, mercenaries etc etc etc. Shrug. Here we stand. World is still spinning, the games are the same, the numbers are just bigger.

I'm comfortable with change. This kind of stuff doesn't bother me but I understand if it does bother other people.
 
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