Look Who's Transferring Now (The Portal)

[dragurd]

No one is leaving mid season and we have had a couple of different MLB players recently threaten to sit out the post season if they were traded somewhere without getting the contract extension they wanted.

I think the sport will be fine, it's the people in the business of sports (especially this bold new world of college sports) that are going to have to come to grips with the reality that the players have the leverage.

To future cast a little bit on your point of a CBE...that is the step after the league forms, is the only employer for your skill set and gets some kind of anti trust exemption as I understand it (not a lawyer). If kids don't form a union, the owners can collude, limit pay and just cut the kid off from the herd. You'll take what we offer because there is no other game in town kind of thing. Google, Amazon etc can't do that

No one is leaving mid season besides trades in the pros cause of collective bargaining. A pure free market people can do whatever the fuck they want. No one wants that. Well maybe some of the kids and their agents do. Imagine Penn State this year and half their players are negotiating deals mid season cause their team fell apart.

Yeah I think that's why they are basically begging congress to step in since like 2020

 

[Jaxbuck]

No one is leaving mid season besides trades in the pros cause of collective bargaining. A pure free market people can do whatever the fuck they want. No one wants that. Well maybe some of the kids and their agents do. Imagine Penn State this year and half their players are negotiating deals mid season cause their team fell apart.

Yeah I think that's why they are basically begging congress to step in since like 2020

I've been laying out the only logical solution I can see for a couple of years now.

Teams-->form league-->teams employ players--> players unionize/CBA

To get that ball rolling, I don't see how you can avoid splitting the teams off into a separate legal entity that has a license deal with the schools to use the team name, colors, logos, stadium etc.

A professional sport just can't stay inside of the academic shell (Title IX/federal funding) anymore.

 

[dragurd]

I've been laying out the only logical solution I can see for a couple of years now.

Teams-->form league-->teams employ players--> players unionize/CBA

To get that ball rolling, I don't see how you can avoid splitting the teams off into a separate legal entity that has a license deal with the schools to use the team name, colors, logos, stadium etc.

A professional sport just can't stay inside of the academic shell (Title IX/federal funding) anymore.

So basically the private equity deal that every one hates is probably the first step to that.

 

[Jaxbuck]

So basically the private equity deal that every one hates is probably the first step to that.

Could be but it doesn’t have to be that exact set up.

Define “everyone” though. If you mean the message boards then whatever, from what I saw of the comments 99% of the haters don’t really understand it. If you mean the schools, then it’s tbd. They had a very specific objection that can be worked on.

 

[dragurd]

Could be but it doesn’t have to be that exact set up.

Define “everyone” though. If you mean the message boards then whatever, from what I saw of the comments 99% of the haters don’t really understand it. If you mean the schools, then it’s tbd. They had a very specific objection that can be worked on.

Everyone as in fans mostly. It's people associate private equity with fucking shit up in the name of profits. Doesn't have to be but most people have a negative connotation of PE where they core out a out a thing and leave a rotting shell in the name of profits.

 

[Jaxbuck]

Everyone as in fans mostly. It's people associate private equity with fucking shit up in the name of profits. Doesn't have to be but most people have a negative connotation of PE where they core out an out a thing and leave a rotting shell in the name of profits.

Well as we went through many times, that’s like saying they are scared of the monster under the bed.

The proposed structure simply didn’t feed into that narrative at all.

 

[dragurd]

Well as we went through many times, that’s like saying they are scared of the monster under the bed.

The proposed structure simply didn’t feed into that narrative at all.

Yep in fact it was from a university system investment fund in fact heavily disincentivizes that. Let alone the structure gave them not a voting interest which basically meant there was no mechanism to do so.

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

Member when we were the bad guys for having a mostly homegrown $20mill roster?

 

[Jaxbuck]

Yep in fact it was from a university system investment fund in fact heavily disincentivizes that. Let alone the structure gave them not a voting interest which basically meant there was no mechanism to do so.

Exactly. The were in line to be a financial sponsor not an operating one. They had a profits interest in a separate company. Zero recourse to any university assets.

 

[TampaBuckeyes]

I've been laying out the only logical solution I can see for a couple of years now.

Teams-->form league-->teams employ players--> players unionize/CBA

To get that ball rolling, I don't see how you can avoid splitting the teams off into a separate legal entity that has a license deal with the schools to use the team name, colors, logos, stadium etc.

A professional sport just can't stay inside of the academic shell (Title IX/federal funding) anymore.

I think I’m finally onboard with this.

 

[3074326]

I've been laying out the only logical solution I can see for a couple of years now.

Teams-->form league-->teams employ players--> players unionize/CBA

To get that ball rolling, I don't see how you can avoid splitting the teams off into a separate legal entity that has a license deal with the schools to use the team name, colors, logos, stadium etc.

A professional sport just can't stay inside of the academic shell (Title IX/federal funding) anymore.

Hopefully when this happens I'll start having those warm fuzzy feelings about CFB again. Otherwise, I don't know the last time I felt so indifferent about what I thought was my favorite sport. The internal dialogue is questioning whether or not I even care at all at this point. I support the athletes' rights to do what they need to do, and it is also ruining the sport. Gotta have more structure or the whole thing is going to feel like a clown show, which it already is.

I don't know how anyone could even make an argument that this is still college athletics. It's pro football sponsored by universities.

 

[SEREbuckeye]

Update on the tally. 19 players gone that were big time recruits.

 

[buckeyemania11]

Saw 247 has DJ Lagway rated as the 15th best transfer and had a good laugh.

 

[BuckyKatt]

 

[Mike80]

The full list:

Ohio State portal entries so far, with 9 Days left in the portal:
- QB Lincoln Keinholz
- RB James Peoples
- RB Sam Williams Dixon
- WR Quincy Porter
- WR Mylan Graham
- WR Bryson Rodgers
- WR Damarion Witten
- TE Jaleni Thurman
- IOL Tegra Tshabola
- IOL Jayvon McFadden
- OT Justin Terry
- OT Devontae Armstrong
- OT Isaiah Kema

- DE CJ Hicks
- DE Logan George
- DE Dominic Kirks
- DT Maxwell Roy
- CB Bryce West
- CB Aaron Scott
- K Jackson Courville
- P Nick Mclarty

Only a couple of them kinda hurt (Scott, maybe West), the rest of them are either projects that didn't pan out (Armstrong, Williams-Dixon), longtime backups who have been recruited over (Keinholz, Thurman), highly rated guys who didn't work out for whatever reason (Hicks, Graham, Rodgers) or guys who didn't have a real shot at playing anytime soon.

Does it suck for depth? Certainly. Will depth be replaced? Almost certainly.

It's still Ohio State. It's still the elite of the elite. If I had to pick someone who won't stand pat, it's likely going to be the group that is winning nearly at a near 90% rate.

There's something to be said for having 2nd and 3rd string dudes who WANT to be here vs. guys who aren't playing and not happy with being here.