CincyInterloper
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Not to single out LSU, but differing donor priorities is just another reason why Harvard has a $57 billion dollar endowment and LSU has a $1 billion dollar endowment.
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What is the UW coach going to do though?
Fight it all you want, it isn’t indentured servitude. You can’t make him stay and play for you. (And why would you want a guy playing that is being forced to?)
If another company is willing to pay the penalty for breaking the contract, that’s the end of the story.
Fight it all you want, it isn’t indentured servitude. You can’t make him stay and play for you. (And why would you want a guy playing that is being forced to?)
If another company is willing to pay the penalty for breaking the contract, that’s the end of the story.
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
Just sayin':
1. It will be interesting to see how binding these NIL contracts are and/or how they play out in the courts. Reportedly Damon Wilson/Missouri and Georgia are suing each other too.
2. Obviously the NCAA is worthless and afraid to do anything concerning NIL; however, they need to institute some standard language for NIL contracts and make them binding (unless both parties agree to dissolve the NIL contract). Any violation of a NIL agreement by any school/player not honoring a signed NIL agreement and any school tampering with a player that has a known NIL agreement at another school should be a major NCAA violation and subject to the appropriate disciplinary action(s).
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That's for the schools themselves to pay, isn't it? Was there anything banning outside collectives/forces from paying players on top of it?
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ok, well you are back to the original spot of limiting how/how much a player can get for their NIL then.
That door is already closed. You can't do it. The NCAA has shit to do with it.
If I am a contractor doing work for Google and someone from Apple wants to pay me more and is willing to bonus me the cost of breaking my agreement with Google....you want to have some enforcement over that? I'm supposed to have my earning potential limited?
It's just a legal contract. The player hasn't been sold to the entity that pays him for the use of his NIL. The only recourse is whatever is written in the contract.
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TampaBuckeyes
Assistant Coach
It was supposed to if you read the house settlement.
Basically they were trying to cap pay for play for 20.5M, that can come from the schools and/or NIL collectives. Students are allowed to get additional NIL beyond that if it was doing legitimate advertising work and it can’t be tied to playing for a certain school.
They set up the clearinghouse to make sure that the NIL money students get over that amount is for legitimate work and at the market rate (you can’t get $1M from a local dealership by doing one appearance).
Nearly $80 million worth of NIL deals cleared by College Sports Commission
Nearly $80 million in name, image and likeness deals were cleared by the College Sports Commission from June through the end of August.
www.usatoday.com
It appears as though the commission is rubber stamping most of the deals. I also wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of deals forget to be submitted (who is going to police it) or are being made and then the money never shows up.
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It was supposed to if you read the house settlement.
Basically they were trying to cap pay for play for 20.5M, that can come from the schools and/or NIL collectives. Students are allowed to get additional NIL beyond that if it was doing legitimate advertising work and it can’t be tied to playing for a certain school.
They set up the clearinghouse to make sure that the NIL money students get over that amount is for legitimate work and at the market rate (you can’t get $1M from a local dealership by doing one appearance).
Nearly $80 million worth of NIL deals cleared by College Sports Commission
Nearly $80 million in name, image and likeness deals were cleared by the College Sports Commission from June through the end of August.www.usatoday.com
It appears as though the commission is rubber stamping most of the deals. I also wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of deals forget to be submitted (who is going to police it) or are being made and then the money never shows up.
Many, and I mean many, people knew that idea wouldn't fly from day 1. It's an attempted work around to limit the kids ability to earn. SCOTUS was very clear on this.
I remember the conversation here about it and feeling that anyone who tried to play by those "rules" was just being a dumbass. Looks like our Prez/AD/whoever may be on the dumbass list.
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TampaBuckeyes
Assistant Coach
While I agree with you that it all sounded stupid and unenforceable from the start, this was the result of a court settlement, not just an arbitrary NCAA rule. So I would assume that the district court judge made sure the settlement abided by the Supreme Court ruling.
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Yeah we've talked about that. It's weird (like a lot of legal things can be I guess).
To my layman's eyes, it was a naked workaround. Some judge said ok, then someone threatened to sue seemingly day 1 and their lawyers told them not to fight, just rubber stamp.
The judge in the middle is the outlier, as I see it.
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dragurd
Head Coach
I mean there are many good reasons this model doesn't work for sports. I mean how long would the NFL survive. If Patrick Mahomes could have left for the Seahawks mid season etc etc.
There needs to be some form of contractual compromise for sports to work as whole. Usually that ends in collective bargaining with enforceable rules and contracts. But I'm not sure you will get enough kids to agree when the courts basically have said it's like Google Amazon etc.. why would they give that up and how would you even collectively bargain when makeup of your sport changes so rapidly. What happens 2 years after a contract is struck and it's all new kids and they don't agree with what their forebearers agreed to?
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No one is leaving mid season and we have had a couple of different MLB players recently threaten to sit out the post season if they were traded somewhere without getting the contract extension they wanted.
I think the sport will be fine, it's the people in the business of sports (especially this bold new world of college sports) that are going to have to come to grips with the reality that the players have the leverage.
To future cast a little bit on your point of a CBE...that is the step after the league forms, is the only employer for your skill set and gets some kind of anti trust exemption as I understand it (not a lawyer). If kids don't form a union, the owners can collude, limit pay and just cut the kid off from the herd. You'll take what we offer because there is no other game in town kind of thing. Google, Amazon etc can't do that
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I don’t know how it would get implemented and enforced, but if they were able to limit each college athlete to a total of two transfers during his career, things would be somewhat less crazy.
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