Yes, yes. We need all the ammo we can get against these damn monkeys.Buckeyeskickbuttocks;813477; said:
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I am finding that pages load slowly the last three days, often timing out before they load.
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Hmm, that's about how long we've been running new versions of PHP, Apache, and MySQL -- but I haven't heard other reports of slowness. I've suffered some as well, but then discovered it was actually one or more of my Firefox plug-ins causing it. After removing those, it was very quick.
That's not to dismiss your claim in the slightest, I just have to figure out if it's a server issue, a net issue, or a client issue, every time there are reports of slow loads.
That's not to dismiss your claim in the slightest, I just have to figure out if it's a server issue, a net issue, or a client issue, every time there are reports of slow loads.
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jwinslow;853068; said::osu:
Page generated in 0.54266 seconds with 17 queries
Isn't it usually at around .25 seconds?
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Not sure. I'm close to that now:Thump;853080; said:
Page generated in 0.37161 seconds with 18 queries
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Page generation will vary with server load. If you have 100 or so folks hitting the server at the same time, it will several tenths to several seconds more to generate a page than if you were the only user hitting the server. Anything under a couple seconds isn't unusual, especially during a weekday when a bunch of users are hitting the server...
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It's search engine bots at the moment. When I logged out this morning, Yahoo had 80 of them on the site. Just a moment ago, there were about 40 from Google, and several from both AskJeeves and Yahoo. It's fluctuating, but about 10x higher than normal. Each of them is like a user who reads an entire page and moves to the next in just a few seconds.
We're getting slammed right now, and it will continue for a couple days, because of some changes made to the site. Essentially, we now offer them a map of the site. A series of files that contain proper links to everything they should be indexing, omitting everything they shouldn't be, all with the proper URLs based on our new structure (term-based, rather than variable based).
So what you have is all the major search engines pounding us, hitting all the URLs (over 1 million of them) in that file, which is refreshed nightly.
I don't expect it to last long, and I don't think it will have too much of an impact on the site. If a given page had a typical load time of .25 seconds for you before, .33-.5 wouldn't shock me now.
1.5s is out of line for any page, but that could have been another issue. There are various crons (automated functions) that run throughout the day. The ones that hit the database hardest (and can cause 'hiccups' in the site lasting between 30 seconds and 3 minutes) are run in the wee hours when we're likely to have less than 10 people on. But there are little ones that run hourly, or every few hours. In those cases, if you just happen to load a page the exact same second as one of them runs (and these things only take about a second to complete their task), then that could cause an extra .5-1s on a page load.
What we have to watch regarding slowdown are trends, rather than spikes. One pageload that takes even like 20 seconds, but then the ones after are .3 seconds, and the ones before were as well -- that could be *anything*. Could be your browser mishandled a java script that didn't load properly, could be your network mishandled a packet, or your local internet with a hiccup, or any of the points between you and our server doing the same, or our connection, or our server running something, etc. Thousands of different possibilities, none directly related to site performance.
But if the average page load time increases over an extended period of time, like it did back before we bought this machine, then we have to start looking at new server-side solutions.
As is, I'll take our mysql stats over to Jelsoft later tonight, and see if it's time to do some settings tweaks to streamline performance.
Do keep posting here and letting me know how the site's performing for you though, particularly in regards to slowdowns -- it's the only way I know when things start to slip.
One last thought. Every now and then, my Firefox, after extended use around BP, just sort of hangs up on a page. Then, if I close Firefox and reopen it, the site flies again. Or if I load IE, I can fly through pages there while Firefox continues to hang up as if the site was stalled out. This is something on my end that I haven't identified yet. It's either a problem extension, or an issue with either Firefox itself, or the version of Sun Java I'm running. If it's happening to me, then it may be happening to others, which is why I mention it. The 'fix' every single time, is to just close and reopen Firefox, and it's all gone. It probably happens to me once every 5-6 hours of use.
We're getting slammed right now, and it will continue for a couple days, because of some changes made to the site. Essentially, we now offer them a map of the site. A series of files that contain proper links to everything they should be indexing, omitting everything they shouldn't be, all with the proper URLs based on our new structure (term-based, rather than variable based).
So what you have is all the major search engines pounding us, hitting all the URLs (over 1 million of them) in that file, which is refreshed nightly.
I don't expect it to last long, and I don't think it will have too much of an impact on the site. If a given page had a typical load time of .25 seconds for you before, .33-.5 wouldn't shock me now.
1.5s is out of line for any page, but that could have been another issue. There are various crons (automated functions) that run throughout the day. The ones that hit the database hardest (and can cause 'hiccups' in the site lasting between 30 seconds and 3 minutes) are run in the wee hours when we're likely to have less than 10 people on. But there are little ones that run hourly, or every few hours. In those cases, if you just happen to load a page the exact same second as one of them runs (and these things only take about a second to complete their task), then that could cause an extra .5-1s on a page load.
What we have to watch regarding slowdown are trends, rather than spikes. One pageload that takes even like 20 seconds, but then the ones after are .3 seconds, and the ones before were as well -- that could be *anything*. Could be your browser mishandled a java script that didn't load properly, could be your network mishandled a packet, or your local internet with a hiccup, or any of the points between you and our server doing the same, or our connection, or our server running something, etc. Thousands of different possibilities, none directly related to site performance.
But if the average page load time increases over an extended period of time, like it did back before we bought this machine, then we have to start looking at new server-side solutions.
As is, I'll take our mysql stats over to Jelsoft later tonight, and see if it's time to do some settings tweaks to streamline performance.
Do keep posting here and letting me know how the site's performing for you though, particularly in regards to slowdowns -- it's the only way I know when things start to slip.
One last thought. Every now and then, my Firefox, after extended use around BP, just sort of hangs up on a page. Then, if I close Firefox and reopen it, the site flies again. Or if I load IE, I can fly through pages there while Firefox continues to hang up as if the site was stalled out. This is something on my end that I haven't identified yet. It's either a problem extension, or an issue with either Firefox itself, or the version of Sun Java I'm running. If it's happening to me, then it may be happening to others, which is why I mention it. The 'fix' every single time, is to just close and reopen Firefox, and it's all gone. It probably happens to me once every 5-6 hours of use.
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Running slowly today...
Also getting some error pages today (including when I tried to load the Admin forum)...
Also getting some error pages today (including when I tried to load the Admin forum)...
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I've hit a bit of that myself today, but not just on BP. If you're using Time Warner, it may be due to some issues that they are having in the area.
Otherwise it's certainly possible that it's server side, although nothing appears to be amiss there. Both servers (web and database) are running smoothly.
Otherwise it's certainly possible that it's server side, although nothing appears to be amiss there. Both servers (web and database) are running smoothly.
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Buckeye513
Stable Genius
Page generated in 60.53779 seconds with 17 queries
Page generated in 60.53850 seconds with 17 queries
Page generated in 60.67346 seconds with 17 queries
Page generated in 60.46386 seconds with 16 queries
Page generated in 60.53850 seconds with 17 queries
Page generated in 60.67346 seconds with 17 queries
Page generated in 60.46386 seconds with 16 queries
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BuckeyeRyn
Calling all friends & people I met on the way down
Turtle pace around here and when I say turtle I mean a dying turtle who has already traveled 500 miles in the blistering hot desert sun with no water.
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