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redguard117
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sammyjenkis;2249542; said:
I guess we differ in our definitions of exciting then. Laurinaitis was easily the most exciting Buckeye LB I had the pleasure to watch, even more than Hawk and Katz. Shazier in my humble opinion has a long way to go before he reaches that lofty level.
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OregonBuckeye
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redguard117;2249557; said:
Love JL but Hawk and Shazier make more of the highlight plays. Though that stretch in '06 where JL had about 4 straight games with an int was pretty damn exciting.
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Bill Lucas
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OregonBuckeye;2249752; said:
Agree. I think steady is a better description of JL than exciting.
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Buckeneye
I lead, you follow.
Well put. JL might not have similar physical abilities of Shazier but
Animal's consistency throught his career has been superior. Ryan
Still has a ways to go before he's near as reliable in pass coverage.
Edit. Let us not forget these two play separate positions with a
Difference in responsibilities.
Animal's consistency throught his career has been superior. Ryan
Still has a ways to go before he's near as reliable in pass coverage.
Edit. Let us not forget these two play separate positions with a
Difference in responsibilities.
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End of Line
Beast Unleashed
I just realized he has better stats than Te'o who is up for the Heisman....
Shazier: 99 Total tackles (59 solo/40 assisted), 4 sacks, 1 int, 1 TD, 7 PD
Te'o: 86 Total tackles (36 solo/50 assisted), 1.5 sacks, 5 int, 4 PD
Ryan is kicking Te'o's ass in the Solo tackle department.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/514180/ryan-shazier
http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/517633/manti-teo
Shazier: 99 Total tackles (59 solo/40 assisted), 4 sacks, 1 int, 1 TD, 7 PD
Te'o: 86 Total tackles (36 solo/50 assisted), 1.5 sacks, 5 int, 4 PD
Ryan is kicking Te'o's ass in the Solo tackle department.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/514180/ryan-shazier
http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/517633/manti-teo
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southcampus
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MaxBuck;2250044; said:
While I agree that Te'o is the better LBer right now, there's no way Te'o should be in consideration for an award that's largely statistically based. He's a good guy and a great player, worthy of a lot of praise. But he's not producing statistics worthy of Heisman consideration IMO.
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MaxBuck
SoCal, Baby!
I don't think Heisman "consideration" should be limited to those with mind-blowing stats (which we should recall Troy Smith did not have). But I would agree that Te'o should not win the Heisman this season.southcampus;2250045; said:
Not that this has anything to do with Shazier this season, whom I haven't seen on any mock Heisman ballots.
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Magua
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Teo is also on the field probably a LOT less. He has also made those big game changing plays when his team needs them. Not to mention ND is playing a high profile game almost every week it seems while chasing the opportunity to play in the NC game. Shazier has made a lot of mistakes as well with missed tackles (though that seems to have tapered off significantly as of late).
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End of Line;2250040; said:
He also has way more tackles for loss, with 11.5 (47th nationally with 1.15 TFL per game)...Te'o isn't even in the top 100 in TFLs.
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Brandon Castel @BCastOZone
#OhioState sophomore LB Ryan Shazier named Big Ten defensive player of the week for the second-straight week. Had 14 tackles (11 solo).
#OhioState sophomore LB Ryan Shazier named Big Ten defensive player of the week for the second-straight week. Had 14 tackles (11 solo).
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