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Lamarcus Joyner (DB New York Jets)

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craigblitz;1619350; said:
We lost a recruit who decided to play for his childhood favorite. It is easy to promise the kid the world now because there is nothing there to refute.

Great talent and I am sure he will do great for the 'Noles but I agree that some of his comments make me think he will be a better fit at Free Shoes University.
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I don't think there's any need for us to take shots at FSU. Knocking others down a peg is a sign of insecurity, imo. When you're as solid as OSU, I don't see a need to rip other schools in order to make us feel mightier. We are tOSU, enough said.

LJ is a great kid and an amazing talent. Every university has had their good and bad moments, but it's easier to focus on others bad ones. Jimbo has done an amazing job since taking over, based solely on the response from the recruits, and I wish him and LJ the best of luck in the future in what I think will be at the very least a future brighter than their current state.
 
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Sometimes reading the linkbacks (other sites linking to a BP thread) at the bottom of pages is interesting. The last one from tharinger.com (whatever that is) linked on 12/10. Quick synopsis (though it's not a long thread)... A Florida State fan starts a thread wanting to see Buckeye meltdown threads because of the Joyner commit. A Buckeye fan links to this thread, says he doesn't see much of a meltdown going on. FSU, Miami and Florida fans essentially saying the response on BP was respectable.

I don't follow recruiting that much but I do remember "meltdowns" in previous years on certain Buckeye sites and to a lesser extent here. I just want to commend those who moderate and participate in this forum for handling news like this with class and representing this small part of Buckeye Nation well.

:gobucks3::gobucks4:
 
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The Bucket And Boarding House Are Back – The Heavyweight Edition! | Football Article
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*** RE-MODELING A STORY?Last week, while our Florida State source was insisting to us that Lamarcus Joyner had already told new head coach Jimbo Fisher he was committing to the Seminoles, there were other ?connected sources? spinning tall tales about what was supposed to happen ? in order, perhaps, to match their ideas of what they hoped would happen.
From a confidante of Coach Fisher?s, we learned that here?s what really happened: Lamarcus truly enjoyed the Ohio State relationship and sincerely told the OSU recruiting gurus pretty much want they wanted to hear. That said, the idea that Joyner was close to going to Ohio State is off base. He has been considered - by Jimbo Fisher - a heavy Florida State lean for at least the last two months; or longer. Think of this: Joyner just committed to Florida State, which does not have a defensive coordinator or secondary coach yet so he has no idea he would even be coaching him. Jimbo Fisher told Joyner that Mark Stoops was one of the candidates for the vacant defensive coordinator job only because Stoops coached at Miami and he thought Joyner would know who that was. But he made Joyner no assurances Stoops would get the job.
The whole issue of if or when Tressel was making his official home visit was largely moot. According to our source from the staff in Tallahassee: ?He was never going to Ohio State. Ever.?
One of the problems of just talking with the kid being recruited and assuming you have ?inside information? is that all you have is what he wants you to know. In this case, it turned out that all the information the ?insiders? had was simply the information Lamarcus wanted them to have?
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KingLeon;1619811; said:
Coulda been the next Winfield who's playing like a beast today like usual..
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Straight Six with Lamarcus Joyner - January 6, 2009

Read the article again. Does Lamarcus sound like Antoine Winfield ... or Deion Sanders?

According to our source from the staff in Tallahassee: "He was never going to Ohio State. Ever." One of the problems of just talking with the kid being recruited and assuming you have "inside information" is that all you have is what he wants you to know. In this case, it turned out that all the information the "insiders" had was simply the information Lamarcus wanted them to have.
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This is why I almost always disregard "inside info", and try to analyze the recruit himself:

LordJeffBuck;1617735; said:
(1) In analyzing a recruit, I always operate under the assumption that he is not going to sign with Ohio State.

(2) Then, I look for reasons why the recruit might be predisposed to sign with Ohio State (local kid, childhood favorite, from a pipeline school, legacy); if the Ohio State ties are strong enough (a Glenville kid, for example), then I change the assumption in favor of Ohio State unless there is some evidence to the contrary (Cordale Scott).

(3) If the kid does not have Buckeye ties, and most of the out-of-state kids do not, then I try to determine whether the kid is a "JT" recruit. If he isn't, then there is very little chance that he'll end up buying JT's "soft sell" approach. Read the kid's statements to the media, and try to imagine if he'd be a good fit for Ohio State. Is the kid quiet, humble, team-oriented ... or is he a "look at me" recruit who loves the attention? I know that some of you don't like to hear this (see the Tim Tebow threads), but if a recruit starts talking about "Christian values", then it's pretty safe to assume that he'd be a good fit at Ohio State.

(4) If the kid is a good "personality match", then I look at the competition. In the case of Joyner, the competition was (a) his childhood favorite, (b) much closer to his home, (c) able to sell immediate playing time, and (d) able to sell "return to greatness". It would be hard for any school to overcome that, and Ohio State could not. By the way, I'm not entirely convinced that LJ was a good fit with JT, but he did tone down his act quite a bit when he transferred to STA, and I do not think that he was "playing" the Buckeye staff.

(5) In summary, Ohio State will usually sign kids who (a) have strong pre-existing ties to Ohio State (most of the Ohio kids, legacy recruits like Duron Carter), (b) are "open" in their recruiting (no pre-determined favorite) and are "personality matches" with the Buckeye staff (Cameron Heyward, James Laurinaitis, Malcolm Jenkins), or (c) have Ohio State as their clear best offer (Kenneth Guiton, Orhian Johnson). And, believe it or not, sometimes JT and Company actually do out-work the competition, and sign kids like Michael Brewster, J.B. Shugarts, and Terrelle Pryor who don't really seem to fit the profile of the "typical" Buckeye recruit ... but remember, those guys are the exceptions, and not the rule.
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LordJeffBuck;1619832; said:
Straight Six with Lamarcus Joyner - January 6, 2009

Read the article again. Does Lamarcus sound like Antoine Winfield ... or Deion Sanders?
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Personality-wise he does remind me of Deion. His playing style is all Antoine 2.0 IMO. Deion was probably the biggest pu....girl scout on the field any given time (kickers included) but the best athlete as well. Lamarcus just looks like he loves to hit (but is also a great athlete). This post doesn't have a point I guess, I just felt like making fun of Deion.
 
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It is always a good time to knock FSU in fact you should be negged repped for not piling on as I threw up a layup for anyone to do.

"I don't think there's any need for us to take shots at FSU. Knocking others down a peg is a sign of insecurity, imo. "

OOOKKK?!?!

I said nothing of LJ... Kid is a beast and I think he will do well at Faked Scores University.

As a player totally more like Winfield!
 
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Hey i read a post up there and it said something about LJ never really considered OSU???
Thats a BIG LIE..that's BS. Thats why i hate all these so called sources and things. MY kid is not lkike that. He was not ever playing with OSU. To be honest, they were a right there neck and neck. LJ decided that FSU and OSU were the same. Now I know a ton of you think other wise, including myself, but that's what he concluded with. It was back forth for months. It really started getting to him. He got a girlfriend that he really started liking plus school and trying to win a championship with his team starting getting to him imo. He wanted it to be over. All I know is that I would ask him at the end of every week who was #1 and if he signed that day who would it be. Most of the time it was OSU or undecided. Believe me or not, UF made a strong push to the point he was liking them over both FSU and OSU which surpised me. It was getting crazier by the day. So I told him not to bring in anymore schools or entertain anymore coaches. He had a visit out to ND and all of a sudden ND was #1. I was like WTH! I understood that though b/c hanging around me for a while you'll know ND is one of my fav and the whole laid back religus vibe is cool in my eyes. He really was thinking about going their with his teammates. No joke. So you can see I figure it was getting out of control after I have kept it organized for so long. I let go and let him do what he needed to do. I was reading all that crap about me pushing him one way or the other so let him go think things out for himself. I was never going to influence him one way or the other unless I thought he was going to make a bad decision. He made his choice in the end. Now I did make him drop UF b/c i just didnt like their style and the way they lied so easily to kids. My fav school for him was Bama but he didn't like them. He loved OSU and FSU. OSU coaches are upset at me b/c I wouldn't speak up OSU or tell LJ the benefits of what OSU had to offer. I wanted to stay out of it and let him do the research and figure it out. I did and to let you all know I found out after most of you when he committed. I didn't even know. I dropped him off to his mom house, i got back to my house and while i was going to bed i get a text from coach Hayes that LJ committed to OSU. I thought he lying. I talk to LJ until the next day. I was upset a lil about it but he did it the way he wanted to. OSU is a great program and will always be b/c they develop their players. Unlike my boy UM and previously FSU.
 
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I dropped him off to his mom house, i got back to my house and while i was going to bed i get a text from coach Hayes that LJ committed to OSU. I thought he lying. I talk to LJ until the next day. I was upset a lil about it but he did it the way he wanted to. OSU is a great program and will always be b/c they develop their players. Unlike my boy UM and previously FSU.
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Is this supposed to be 'that LJ committed to FSU' ?
 
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Gatorubet;1638887; said:
And academics won't be a problem there - which can be a plus.
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and he can prob start right away....because Korey Mangum would have trouble walking on at tOSU and he has started at safety for them the last 2 years. They need to restock the cupboard BIG TIME. It's encouraging this class seems to be going well, but its going to take some time.

The other good news is the ACC is very weak, so they'll at least remain competitive for the conference championship.
 
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