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Ky -1.5 vs N Carolina (ov/un 146.5) Sun 5 ET, CBS

scarletngrey11;1899716; said:
Disagree.

Missed an obvious one on the fastbreak, then turn around and call a shitty one in UKs favor.

In my experience, shitty refs make shitty calls. Shitty calls aren't typically weighted to one side or another. These are shitty refs. It just so happens Kentucky is getting the most benefit out of the shitty calls, I've seen quite a few go both ways in this game.
 
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http://www.kernel.uky.edu/sportsdaily/hoops98/page02a.html

From the late 80's...
This article details the 88-89 season with 17 NCAA violations

Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_...cky_mens_basketball_program_had#ixzz1HqLUYmHo

"Kentucky's Shame."
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Two little words with big implications for the UK men's basketball program. They were the words that branded the cover of the Sports Illustrated that outlined the 17 NCAA violations facing head coach Eddie Sutton and the 1988-89 Cats.
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Two little words that summed up a March 31, 1988 delivery of $1,000 in $50 bills and a videotape to the father of then-UK recruit Chris Mills. UK assistant coach Dwane Casey was listed as the sender.
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Two little words that summed up the academic fraud of Eric Manuel, another recruit, who took a college entrance exam at Lafayette High School and allegedly cheated off a nearby student. The NCAA report found that 211 of their 219 answers (right and wrong) were the same.
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Two little words that summed up a Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative series by the Lexington Herald-Leader a few years before that, which exposed widespread corruption in the program, including boosters' "$100 handshakes" with UK star players, to free meals and other perks.
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At the time, the NCAA's investigators failed to develop enough evidence to prosecute. UK was, however, cited for a lack of cooperation.

http://sportifi.com/news/College-Basketball-The-25-Sketchiest-Programs-in-Hoops-History-405659.html

The Kentucky Wildcats have a rap sheet almost as prolific as their successes. Historically, the team has had teams that have proven to be somewhat shady.
It all started under Adolph Rupp (pictured). In 1949, Kentucky was the most feared team in the nation and went on to win the NCAA championship.
However, they had two suspicious losses, one to Saint Louis and one to Loyola. Later, three players including two All-Americans (Alex Groza and Ralph Beard) admitted to throwing the Loyola game. They were subsequently banned from the pro league forever.
Two years later, in 1951, center Bill Spivey was accused of shaving points, right after coach Rupp said: "Gamblers couldn't touch my boys with a 10-foot pole."
Spivey claimed innocence before a grand jury and was charged with lying under oath. He didn't get convicted, but the NBA prohibited Spivey from ever playing. Sportswriters soon sent Rupp an 11-foot pole after the scandal broke.
After two scandals in three years, Kentucky became the first team to get the "death penalty" and were banned from play during the entire 1952-53 season.
Many years later, in 1989, head coach Eddie Sutton was implicated in another scandal regarding the paying of recruits. His assistant coach had sent $1,000 to the father of freshman Chris Mills and Kentucky was already under probation.
The NCAA considered another "death penalty" ruling, but instead Eddie Sutton and athletic director Cliff Sutton were forced to resign and the Wildcats got three years of probation and a two-year ban on postseason play.
There haven't been any other sanctions on Kentucky since then, but the hiring of John Calipari has me sitting on the edge of my seat.
With his record, it may not be long before something happens in Lexington. Technically, none of the things he's done in the past have been his fault, but lots of things have gone on under his watch, so it wouldn't surprise me if something else did.


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/andy_staples/06/02/calipari.bledsoe/index.html

But things are not good for Calipari, who may be due for some good karma after donating $1 million to the Streets Ministries organization in Memphis. The banner commemorating his 1996 Final Four appearance at UMass is in mothballs because an NCAA investigation determined Marcus Camby took money from an agent. Ditto for the banner commemorating his 2008 Final Four appearance at Memphis because an NCAA investigation determined someone took the SAT for star guard Derrick Rose. Now NCAA investigators are sniffing around Bledsoe's hometown of Birmingham, Ala., asking who paid the rent for Bledsoe and his mother and how Bledsoe made such a miraculous academic leap from his junior to his senior year.
Bledsoe, who went one-and-done along with fellow Wildcats freshmen John Wall, DeMarcus Cousins and Daniel Orton, doesn't have to cooperate with any investigation. He can keep his mouth shut and enjoy his NBA money, and there isn't a thing the NCAA can do about it. If Bledsoe could discern the identity of the person who leaked his transcript to the Times, he'd have a lawsuit, but he'd be a fool to file one. That would require under-oath depositions that allow attorneys wide latitude in their lines of questioning. NCAA investigators would gobble up those transcripts.


 
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BuckeyeMac;1899717; said:
That bucket was a 2 and how was that not a foul when Barnes was shooting that 3???? Holy shit

I thought they should have stopped play right away to review it. Carolina needs to know if they're down 3 or 4 in the last mninute of play.

And I also thought that was a foul when Barnes was shooting the 3. The guys arms were draped over the shooter's head and shoulders and there was contact.
 
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SloopyHangOn;1899719; said:
In my experience, [Mark May]ty refs make [Mark May]ty calls. [Mark May]ty calls aren't typically weighted to one side or another. These are [Mark May]ty refs. It just so happens Kentucky is getting the most benefit out of the [Mark May]ty calls, I've seen quite a few go both ways in this game.

Harrelson has set more moving screens and committed more over the backs in the last two games than any player I have ever seen.

I have not seen a single one called.

If Barnes was a UK player, you can bet your ass there would have been a whistle on that 3 attempt.

UK has benefited from calls the last 2 games. Thats why they are so tough. They get in your face and play tough defense. When you get in their face, they get the calls.
 
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zwem;1899726; said:
Why wasn't a foul called on the Barnes 3. The dude leans forward and hits Barnes and no call. That was bs.

Why wasnt a foul called when Strickland got an offensive rebound and body checked underneath the basket?

Why wasnt there a foul called on the next possession when UNC had a fastbreak bucket with an obvious foul?

Kentucky gets all the calls late. Thats all it is.
 
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scarletngrey11;1899723; said:
UK has benefited from calls the last 2 games. Thats why they are so tough. They get in your face and play tough defense. When you get in their face, they get the calls.

I just don't buy that certain teams get "all" the calls. I buy reputation calls on certain players, which explains a lot of Harrellson's non-fouls, but as far as saying a certain team is being helped by refs is something that seems too outlandish to actually happen outside of frustrated fan fantasy world.
 
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scarletngrey11;1899718; said:
Beyond pissed right now.

Meh...that was one of my emotions Friday night. I've never liked Kentucky OR Carolina, so either one in the final four sucks in my book. :ohwell:

At least the team that knocked us out didn't get crushed in their next game. Obviously, we lost to a very good team.
 
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SloopyHangOn;1899730; said:
I just don't buy that certain teams get "all" the calls. I buy reputation calls on certain players, which explains a lot of Harrellson's non-fouls, but as far as saying a certain team is being helped by refs is something that seems too outlandish to actually happen outside of frustrated fan fantasy world.

Just have to disagree then.

Kentucky is allowed to play more physical.

Last 2-3 minutes of the game I just watched was criminal. No excuse not calling a foul on that Barnes 3 pointer. What more is the defender allowed to do? Sodomize him? He was halfway there.
 
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What I hate is when Uk's victories are vacated because something else that their shady coach did it will absolutely do nothing for OSU. Kinda when the "Fab Five" knocked us out in the early 90's only to learn that they cheated....Really pisses me off....
 
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scarletngrey11;1899733; said:
Last 2-3 minutes of the game I just watched was criminal. No excuse not calling a foul on that Barnes 3 pointer. What more is the defender allowed to do? Sodomize him? He was halfway there.

I agree with this, I just don't think it was intentional by the refs. Like I said, shitty refs make shitty calls. Kentucky got the benefit of it.
 
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Jake;1899732; said:
Meh...that was one of my emotions Friday night. I've never liked Kentucky OR Carolina, so either one in the final four sucks in my book. :ohwell:

At least the team that knocked us out didn't get crushed in their next game. Obviously, we lost to a very good team.

OSU is my favorite college team regardless of sport.

However UNC basketball is the only team outside of Ohio I root for. Grew up a few minutes away from Chapel Hill. Have rooted for them all my life.

Those fuckers just took out my Buckeyes and my Tarheels.

Im off to break something.
 
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