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University administration, from Dean-level to the top, is an underpaid, thankless, political toilet of a job.
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Well, you have to remember that their employer is a charity. You shouldn't be going into charity work if you want to be paid well or appreciated.
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ORD_Buckeye
Wrong glass, Sir.
I don't get that analogy at all. Ohio State University is not a soup kitchen. The Ohio State President is running a 7B enterprise with an extremely highly educated workforce doing, among other things, very high end scientific and medical research. If anything the President is underpaid compared to someone running a private company of similar scale and complexity.
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Well, a university is a knowledge business and a lot of what a senior executive experiences there is the same "herding cats" stuff. There is a lot more of a need to demonstrate transparent hiring and promotion practices and to align with diversity objectives and the like, but in the end, it's still herding cats. The problem with higher education is that student complaints carry far too much weight. We have gone from 700 page textbooks in more advanced undergrad and foundation courses to 150 page books in just two decades because students complained (and still complain) about too much reading. Maths have been stripped from many disciplines at exactly the time when maths is most needed in the emerging world of work.
Entry level marketing texts in the 60s and 70s introduced complex statistical approaches (e.g., Bayesian analysis, linear programming) which were done by hand because even pocket calculators were not really available yet. The dumbing down of education is due in large part to the constant complaining of students, the clamour from very small interest groups, and similar issues.
However, there is almost nothing similar about senior management in a university and in a nonprofit business...and I have sat on a board at the largest charity in SA at one point.
Entry level marketing texts in the 60s and 70s introduced complex statistical approaches (e.g., Bayesian analysis, linear programming) which were done by hand because even pocket calculators were not really available yet. The dumbing down of education is due in large part to the constant complaining of students, the clamour from very small interest groups, and similar issues.
However, there is almost nothing similar about senior management in a university and in a nonprofit business...and I have sat on a board at the largest charity in SA at one point.
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ORD_Buckeye
Wrong glass, Sir.
Is that maybe more of a business major thing? When I was at Ohio State, there was a business history class that business majors took. For history majors, it was notoriously considered an easy A in a 500 level class because none of the business majors could keep up with the reading or write a decent essay answer on a test.
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Nope. It is an across the board trend. The other trend the last two decades is grade inflation, especially in private universities.
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ORD_Buckeye
Wrong glass, Sir.
I wonder what today's students think of George Kalbous' 19th century Russian lit class where the reading load was over a thousand pages a week.
Regarding grade inflation, it came out a few years ago that over 80% of Harvard students were graduating with Latin Honors.
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It is most of the Ivy League. Their explanation? "We attract the top students who leave us and have to compete for entry in other programs against grade point average similarities that hide the much higher level of education at our Ivy League university." No bueno
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Like everything else in life, it depends on the candidate. Holbrook, for example, was a biology teacher. She wasn’t qualified to manage a Walmart, let alone a large non-profit like OSU.
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calibuck
Too soon old, too late smart
Believe that she put togher/built a consortion of power generators in the NE USA. That takes more than book learnin'. But I agree she is unique, in that most university presidents come up through the education ranks, with little or no experience with the business side of things. Saw that time after time at the K-12 level. As to grade inflation, yeah, it's a reality. A bit of socialism has crept into education (at all levels folks), where the perception is that course A is too hard, prof makes us do too much, and course B is a 'bunny', all you have to do is show up. Was exposed to what MBAs did at Stanford, and it was quite a bit more strenuous than tOSU (where I went). They did as a matter of course, what we had to sign up for specially, ie, PowerPoint creation and subsequent presentation making.
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