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Kellen Winslow Jr. (not a good dude)

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It doesn't even sound like he's really trying to backtrack...it's a half-assed backtrack if it is, which isn't surprising. The guy played 6 years and thinks he's the greatest player that ever played in the NFL...what does one expect from his kid, I guess? The funny thing is he isn't even amongst the Top 5 TEs of all-time, let alone amongst the best players of all time. Yo, Winsblow, you don't want to hear the media's opinion? Here's a clue, assclown...no one cares about your opinion, either.
 
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Oh, the media doesn't respect football players enough????? Does this society really need anymore jocksniffing? Football players are some of the most highly respected people in the country - moreso than the fucking President.

Everybody gets criticized when they do stuff that's incredibly fucking stupid. From the garbage man to the mayor to Winslow's dumbass son. And for the most part, the scope of that criticism is consistent with the scope of the praise people get when they do things right. If that kid is gonna go out and get on TV for strking a Heisman pose after his only touchdown of the season at Louisiana Tech, then he should also expect his mistakes to be high-profile. The garbage men of this world don't have people like Dan Fouts verbally fellating them for their accomplishments. Any criticism Winslow receives that is above and beyond what "civilians" receive is deserved. If you go out of your way to become famous, you run the risk of becoming INFAMOUS instead.
 
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If it seems like everyone you come in contact with has it in for you, it means one of two things:

1) You are paranoid with delusions of grandeur and think everything is about you.
2) You rub people the wrong way and therefore they really do have it in for you.

Either way, the onus is on you to change.

BTW... Yes, I'm talking about you Tibor.
 
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the funniest thing about his tirade was him saying that the media made this a circus. If they had been upfront with the media and said what was going on their would be no circus. They weren't releasing any information to the media which then made it into a bigger event with every passing day.

The winslows made it a circus by not letting everyone know what is going on . It is their right to do so, but you have to deal with the consequences.
 
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Winslow to undergo season-ending surgery Tuesday

Browns.com

By Zac Jackson, Staff Writer
June 13, 2005

 Kellen Winslow will have surgery on his injured right knee Tuesday, and Browns coach Romeo Crennel said he expects the second-year tight end will miss the entire 2005 season.

Winslow injured the knee in a motorcycle accident May 1 and was hospitalized for nine days. He's been rehabbing and participating in team meetings at Browns headquarters since, and he watched Monday's minicamp practice from the sideline.

"Hopefully he'll have a good repair," Crennel said of Winslow's surgery. "I hope we'll get him back at some point, whenever that is."

Crennel said after the surgery Winslow will be "back to square one. He'll be where he was last year, having to rehab an injury."

Winslow, the sixth overall pick in the 2004 NFL Draft, broke his leg in the second game of his rookie season and missed the rest of the year.

"Hopefully at this time next year he'll be back on the field," Crennel said. "Hopefully we'll have a player then."





*ESPN is also reporting that this week the Browns will officially inform Winslow that he violated the "dangerous activities" (or whatever the official term is) clause in his contract.*
 
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Tlangs said:
the funniest thing about his tirade was him saying that the media made this a circus. If they had been upfront with the media and said what was going on their would be no circus. They weren't releasing any information to the media which then made it into a bigger event with every passing day.

The winslows made it a circus by not letting everyone know what is going on . It is their right to do so, but you have to deal with the consequences.
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The funniest thing to me is that this 21 year old "man" can't go anywhere or do anything without his daddy stepping up to the podium. If you want the kid to grow up, go home and let him answer for himself.
 
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espn.com

8/2/05
BEREA, Ohio -- While there remain some details to be finalized, the Cleveland Browns are close to an agreement with tight end Kellen Winslow that will allow the club's 2004 first-round draft choice to recoup the bonus money that has been or will be withheld from him because of the season-ending knee injury sustained in a May 1 motorcycle accident.

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The agreement, which one source termed "very close," would also extend Winslow's contract by one year.

The Browns have already withheld a $2 million payment that was due Winslow on July 15 as part of his original $6 million signing bonus. Neither will the club make a payment of $950,000, also part of the signing bonus, that is due by Dec. 15. And Cleveland will not pay $2.4 million due July 15, 2006 that was part of a $4.4 million option bonus.

Under the pending agreement, Winslow would have the ability to recover that money if he meets certain performance levels and also adheres to strict off-field conditions. Also of note is that, under the proposal currently under discussion by the two sides, the Browns will reserve the right to seek repayment of the bonus money Winslow has collected to this point if he breaches his contract in any way a second time.

"He doesn't get a 'mulligan' on the first breach of contract," said a source familiar with the negotiations. "[The team] can still come after that money. On the other hand, it offers him a chance to make back the bonus money he lost by breaching the contract the first time. It's very fair."

To date, Winslow has banked $5.05 million in bonuses: Separate payments of $2 million and $1.05 million that were part of his $6 million signing bonus, and of $2 million that was a part of his option bonus. ESPN.com reported in May that the Browns likely would attempt to recover about $3 million of that amount, but team officials ultimately decided against that.

The Browns essentially are treating the $5.05 million as a loan that will be forgiven if Winslow is productive on the field and experiences no further problems off it.

Clearly, the pending agreement represents a compromise, one that permits the Browns to send a message that they did not take lightly Winslow's blatant breach of contract by riding a motorcycle, but which also permits the talented tight end to still have a deal that is commensurate to his abilities if he recovers and is productive. The two sides have been discussing for weeks a way to find middle ground in resolving the obvious issues raised by the accident. Apparently, those negotiations have been amicable and a deal is close.

At least twice in Winslow's contract -- in the "optional extension agreement" and in the "signing, reporting and playing bonus addendum" -- there is specific language regarding the off-field activities in which the player is precluded from participating. The sections of both addendums are similar and refer to "hazardous activities" that "involve a significant risk of personal injury ... including, but not limited to skydiving, hang gliding, mountain climbing, auto racing, motorcycling, scuba diving and skiing."

The contract, executed on Aug. 11, 2004, also reads: "It is further understood and agreed that player's waiver of rights to certain unpaid amounts, and player's obligation to re-pay certain amounts of [these bonuses] are express provisions of this contract and, but for the provisions herein contained, club would not have executed this contract."

Winslow tore the anterior cruciate ligament of his right knee and also suffered internal injuries in the May 1 motorcycle accident. He underwent mid-June surgery to repair his knee and will miss the entire season.

The sixth player chosen overall in the '04 draft, Winslow appeared in just two games as a rookie. The former University of Miami star had five receptions for 50 yards before breaking his right leg while attempting to recover an onside kick late in a Sept. 19 game at Dallas.

Because of the two injuries he has suffered, Winslow has essentially lost about $10 million that he could have earned in incentives.

Len Pasquarelli is a senior NFL writer for ESPN.com. To check out Len's chat archive, click here
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