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Kellen Winslow Jr. (not a good dude)

Charlie Frye also complained about Winslow not being on the field. He also complained last week about giving up on the running game. Winslow and Frye probably need to keep their mouths shut with the media, but maybe word isn't getting to the people that need to know that Maurice Carthon is a horrible offensive coordinator, and that they need someone that can put together a gameplan and follow it.


P.S. Winslow is a playmaker. Especially if used correctly.
 
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Maurice Carthon's inept ass needs to be called out, even if it is KWII doing it. How that man has a job running an NFL offense I don't understand. I don't think he could coach 11 Sailors fresh off the boat in Bangkok to score. I just hope to God RAC isn't one of those "loyal to a fault" type of coaches. End of rant.
 
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I hate to say it, but Winslow has been the Browns only receiver that is worth a crap so far this season. He probably does need the ball more unless the line can start opening holes or Edwards can cure his lifelong bout with the dropsies. Carthon is the biggest problem with the Browns right now.
 
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IronBuckI;611205; said:
P.S. Winslow is a playmaker. Especially if used correctly.
"Playmakers" need to make plays - Winslow hasn't made too many so far.

Even if he is/could be a playmaker, why say it? How many times did classy players like Jerry Rice, Emmitt Smith, Eddie George, etc. call themselves playmakers? They just showed it on the field. Time for KWII to shut up and play.
 
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"Playmakers" need to make plays - Winslow hasn't made too many so far.

Even if he is/could be a playmaker, why say it? How many times did classy players like Jerry Rice, Emmitt Smith, Eddie George, etc. call themselves playmakers? They just showed it on the field. Time for KWII to shut up and play.
exactly what i was going to say. playmakers make plays on the field, not espn interviews. i was never a fan of the irvin/sanders playmaker/primetime stuff. i dont care what you say, but skill postion playmakers have more than one career td catch...
 
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Here is the full article. THis is just priceless. :slappy:

Winslow throws down
Tight end upset about offense's play calling, being pulled on third down
Tuesday, September 19, 2006
Mary Kay Cabot

Tight end Kellen Winslow Jr. vented his frustration in the Browns locker room Monday about being taken off the field on third down and about the team's conservative offense.

"Some of the coaches might just be holding us back a little bit," Winslow said. "I don't mean to try to go behind their backs or whatever, but let's go, let's air it out, let's run the ball, let's make plays, let's be exciting."

He said the offensive coaches are failing to get the ball in the hands of the playmakers.

"I think we're being a little too conservative right now and we just need to unleash it," he said. "Why wait? We're 0-2. We've got nothing to lose."

He said he's tried talking to the coaching staff, to no avail.

"There's so much talking -- it doesn't even matter anymore sometimes," he said. "It's just up to them."

Winslow was especially frustrated during the 34-17 loss to the Bengals because he was removed from the field on several key third downs. After one of those, late in the third quarter, he stalked over to the sidelines and waved his hands in anger. The Browns converted only 2-of-10 third downs.

"It's very frustrating," Winslow said. "We're losing and I'm not on the field. And I just don't get it. I don't really say anything; I just show my frustration."

Winslow said he's tried talking to his position coach, Ben Coates, and offensive coordinator Maurice Carthon, but nothing's changed.

"The Giants run the same system as we do, the Cowboys run the same system as we do and [Jeremy] Shockey and [Jason] Witten are on the field on third down," he said. "I just don't understand why I'm not on the field sometimes."

Does he expect it to change? "It has to if we want to win," he said. "Not just myself, but we need our playmakers on the field."

When his frustration finally boiled over on the field in Cincinnati, he brought his case to coach Romeo Crennel. "I talked to him during the game and he said he'll take care of it, so I'm pretty sure it's going to be taken care of," Winslow said.

Winslow also criticized the offensive staff for the run-oriented scheme against Cincinnati. Reuben Droughns ran the ball on the first five offensive plays - and on seven of the first 11 overall. He gained 17 yards on those seven runs and 32 overall on his 14 carries.


"We were run-first oriented and that's fine," Winslow said. "But we were down, 14-3, in the first quarter, so we've got to whip the plays out and let's go."

By halftime, the Browns were down, 17-3, and Winslow had caught only two passes for 22 yards. The ball didn't come his way until midway through the second quarter - and when it did, he caught it for 13 yards, including a few yards after the catch.

Overall, he had four catches for 42 yards against a defense that was playing man coverage.

"Nobody can guard me man to man," Winslow said after the game. "I'm just a playmaker, man. I just want to make plays and win."

Coach Romeo Crennel took umbrage to questions about Winslow's absence on third-down.

"He's not a wide receiver, first of all, so when you go three wides, he's not there," Crennel said. "I think you need to look at those plays that were run when we had that personnel group in the game and see if his presence would have made a difference on the plays that were called or not - before we jump to conclusions about whether he should be on the field or not."

But Winslow made it clear he believes he would make an impact on third down.

"Because I'm a playmaker," he said. "When the ball comes my way, I catch the ball, plain and simple."

While Winslow was standing on the sidelines, teammate Braylon Edwards was struggling with dropped passes, three in all.

"We've just got to execute - and when the ball comes, we've got to make the play," Winslow said.
 
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Kellen is a tool, no doubt about that. As far as making plays LJB, I think he's held up his end of the bargain, at least as well as possible on an awful browns team. He's caught everything thrown his way, battled for yardage, etc. Pretty hard to get downfield with the browns OL.

The browns coaches are moronic for taking Winslow off the field on third downs. He's their only legitimate weapon... Braylon drops easy passes, JJ is injured, Frye can't scramble every time, etc.
 
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jwinslow;611518; said:
Kellen is a tool, no doubt about that. As far as making plays LJB, I think he's held up his end of the bargain, at least as well as possible on an awful browns team. He's caught everything thrown his way, battled for yardage, etc. Pretty hard to get downfield with the browns OL.

The browns coaches are moronic for taking Winslow off the field on third downs. He's their only legitimate weapon... Braylon drops easy passes, JJ is injured, Frye can't scramble every time, etc.
Quit sticking up for your namesake, Josh - :tongue2:
 
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jwinslow;611518; said:
Kellen is a tool, no doubt about that. As far as making plays LJB, I think he's held up his end of the bargain, at least as well as possible on an awful browns team. He's caught everything thrown his way, battled for yardage, etc. Pretty hard to get downfield with the browns OL.

The browns coaches are moronic for taking Winslow off the field on third downs. He's their only legitimate weapon... Braylon drops easy passes, JJ is injured, Frye can't scramble every time, etc.

I hate winslut but, I think your right. HE IS THE ONLY OPTION FOR THE BROWNS BUT, I STILL WON'T GO TO A GAME WITH HIM ON IT SINCE HE'S SUCH A SOLDIER.
I wish he could do some reporting over there because, he might get shot looking like Taliban
 
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OSUsushichic;611707; said:
Wow, his 2nd game back from a 2-year hiatus and he's already bitching. Way to screw yourself, Soldja.

Let me start by saying I hate the cocky bastard, and his equally cocky bastard father. However, this actually bothers me the least about what he's done...he's kind of like Keyshown Johnson used to be when he was good...he's an asshole, but at least he wants to produce. Give me that over Roy "Who cares about the score" Williams or David "I'm gonna showboat after catching a 4 yard slant on 3rd and 18" Terrell any day.
 
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akronbuck;611631; said:


I hate winslut but, I think your right. HE IS THE ONLY OPTION FOR THE BROWNS BUT, I STILL WON'T GO TO A GAME WITH HIM ON IT SINCE HE'S SUCH A SOLDIER.
I wish he could do some reporting over there because, he might get shot looking like Taliban
I believe it is SOULJA, rather than SOLDIER. :)
 
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