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Kellen Winslow Jr. (not a good dude)

methomps thanks for the cut-n-paste on the Winslow story.

The link is http://profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm -- scroll down for the full text.

Actually -- as it seems that site will likely replace that page (and I didn't see an archive link) here is their full text for the Winslow portion of that page...
POSTED 10:28 p.m. EDT, May 2, 2005<o =""></o>
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WINSLOW TO LOSE MORE THAN $9 MILLION?<o ="">

Setting aside for now the question of whether Browns tight end "Evel Kellenievel" Winslow should have been riding a motorcycle as he still rehabs from a broken leg that scuttled his 2004 rookie season (and prevented him from earning a big-money bonus payment by failing to participate in 30 percent of the team's offensive snaps), we've gotten a look-see at Winslow's contract, which indicates that he shouldn't have been riding a motorcycle at all. Ever. Period.<o ="">

As a general matter, Winslow has breached Paragraph 3 of his contract, which prevents him from "engag[ing] in any activity other than football which may involve a significant risk of personal injury." <o =""></o>

And this breach could have significant consequences. Winslow's motorcycling allows the team (if it so chooses) to recover $5 million of his initial signing bonus and the full $4.4125 million of his option bonus triggered at the outset of the 2005 league year, $2.4125 million of which won't actually be paid to Winslow until July 15.<o ="">

So the total potential price tag on Winslow's deliberate failure to comply with the terms of his contract is a whopping $9.4125 million.<o =""></o>


Under the contract, Winslow becomes potentially responsible to pay back the bonus money due to "injury as a result of a breach of Paragraph 3 of the Contract" or "as a result of participation in hazardous activities which involve a significant risk of personal injury and are non-football in nature, including but not limited to skydiving, hang gliding, mountain climbing, auto racing, motorcycling, scuba diving, or skiing." (Emphasis added.)<o =""></o>
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The bottom line is that, under the terms of Winslow's deal, getting injured while motorcycling is no different that walking away from his contractual obligations, a la Ricky Williams did nearly a year ago. <o =""></o>
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In either case, the club can recover bonus money.<o =""></o>


And in Winslow's case, he could end up forking over more than $9 million.<o =""></o>
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The bigger question is whether the Browns should make a grab for Winslow's $9 million. Since the guy that drafted Winslow is long gone and given that we can't imagine Winslow and 2005 first-round pick Braylon Edwards co-existing in the same conference much less in the same locker room, we think the Browns should send Winslow a bill for $9.4125 million, and then let nature take its course.<o =""></o> <o ="">

If nothing else, such a move could help the Browns recoup a major chunk of Butch Davis' buyout.<o =""></o>
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All I know is I would gladly pay 9M to watch that fucker go flying over the handelbars. :slappy:

Actual video of the accident could potentially be more valuable than the Mona Lisa.


This diagram could have potentially saved Pvt Winslow 9M if he were smart enough to read it.

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But he scored a fucking 12 on the Wonderlic so here is how it ended up

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MililaniBuckeye said:
So, a "doctorb" is different than a "doctor"? Actually, I don't wish serious injury on anyone. Do I think it's great that the asshole may miss out on a shit load of money because of his stupidity? Damn straight. Am I happy that he may have some serious physical injuries? No. I'm not going to lose any sleep over it, but I'm not going to rejoice about it either.

The B stands for bargain

You need a Simpsons catch-up, Mili :biggrin:
 
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Some applicable humor courtesy of the Flying Circus...
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The Hell Grannies (that is KJ in the rear trying to keep up)
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Discussing the shrubbery that KJ went through...

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Police clean up after the accident....
 
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what a soldier:biggrin: I hope he gets well for he can join our troops in Iraq

his comments he made about being a true soldier must have caught up with him

great talent with I.Q. of clarett , what a waste

I had season tickets for the browns before, they drafted him. gone
 
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Folanator - - Where you going for "its naught but a scratch?"

Seriously though its dumb what Winslow did, but if it costs him more than a year out of football its tragically dumb. And, with the swelling NOT down sufficiently to do an MRI on Tuesday it does not sound good.
 
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Come back and fight like a man....

Agreed. No one wants a kid to be hurt permanently. No matter what a tool he is.

BTW, that last pic is from one of the funniest scenes in the history of Cinema, "Bring out your dead..."
 
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Winslow out for season ..... ?

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The Cleveland Browns are concerned that injuries suffered by Kellen Winslow Jr. in a weekend motorcycle accident will prevent the second-year tight end from playing this season, NFL sources said.

The primary problem, sources said, are potentially significant injuries to the right knee and right shoulder -- with the club unable to determine the extent of damage to either until swelling subsides.

The swelling in the knee was considerable, sources said, with the Browns fearful Winslow may have torn his anterior cruciate ligament. The club also suspects Winslow may have suffered ligament or tendon damage to his shoulder, sources said.

In addition, sources said the Browns believe Winslow may have suffered a punctured lung and an injury to his kidney, but that neither had the club overly concerned. A source close to the club said the kidney was bruised.

Winslow was hurt while riding his motorcycle in the parking lot of a community college Sunday. According to police, he hit a curb while driving 35 mph and was thrown from the bike.

He later was taken by ambulance to Fairview Hospital and was transferred to Cleveland Clinic where the Browns' medical staff treated him. The club later said Winslow's injuries were not life threatening, but sources close to the team said the organization has serious concerns that his season may be imperiled.

"Winslow has sustained some internal injuries, which are stable," the Browns said in a statement released Monday. "There is also swelling in his right shoulder and knee. The extent of the injuries will not be known until further medical evaluation is completed after the swelling is reduced."

Winslow was the team's first-round draft pick in 2004, but missed all but two games after breaking his right leg against Dallas attempting to recover an onside kick in the closing seconds.

Winslow, who had five catches last year, had two surgeries on the leg and appeared recovered from the injury.
 
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Learning to ride?

Winslow's motorcycle use might be contract violation
By Joe Milicia, The Associated Press
CLEVELAND — Kellen Winslow Jr.'s use of a motorcycle might have violated standard NFL contract language that prohibits players from engaging in dangerous activities. (Related item: Winslow injured in motorcycle accident)
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The Cleveland Browns could require Winslow, who lost millions last year because of a season-ending injury, to pay back a $4.4 million signing bonus he received in March.

The 21-year-old tight end sustained internal injuries and damage to his right shoulder and right knee in an accident that sent him flying over the handlebars of his newly purchased motorcycle.

Winslow was being treated at the Cleveland Clinic, where the team's medical staff was waiting for swelling in the shoulder and knee to subside. The team declined Tuesday to provide an update on his condition.

NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said the standard NFL contract forbids players from taking part in any activity "which may involve a significant risk of personal injury."

It's another setback for the struggling Browns and Winslow, who entered the league last season with high expectations and a reputation as a hothead. His rookie season ended in disappointment when he broke his right leg during an onside kick in a Week 2 loss against Dallas.

With his leg still on the mend, Winslow purchased a sport bike last month and was learning how to ride it in a parking lot Sunday night when he hit a curb and was thrown off. He complained of chest pains after the crash.

Winslow held out last year before signing a $40 million contract — a record for a tight end — as the No. 6 pick in the draft.

Teams have the option of making contract language regarding dangerous activities more or less restrictive during negotiations with players, Aiello said. The Browns wouldn't release information about Winslow's contract.

There are a number of professional athletes who have violated contracts by getting hurt off the job.

In June 2003, Jay Williams of the Chicago Bulls crashed his recently bought motorcycle into a light pole, fracturing his pelvis, tearing knee ligaments and damaging nerves in his left leg. He hasn't played since.

The Bulls honored one year of Williams' contract even though he violated a standard clause, then waived him in February 2004 after reaching a settlement on the remaining two years. The buyout was reportedly worth about $3 million.

In 1994, Ron Gant was cut by the Atlanta Braves after he broke a leg in a motorcycle accident.

Aaron Boone was released by the New York Yankees before the 2004 season because he hurt a knee in a pickup basketball game.

Boone lost out on the majority of his $5.75 million, one-year contract because he violated language that prohibited basketball. He returned this season with the Cleveland Indians.

Winslow lost a $5.3 million bonus last season because of the leg injury that dealt a severe blow to Cleveland's offense, forcing the team to remove half its playbook.

New coach Romeo Crennel said in March that he has big plans for Winslow in the offense. The team envisions a passing game built around Winslow and rookie wide receiver Braylon Edwards.

Winslow, the son of Hall of Famer Kellen Winslow, dubbed himself "The Chosen One" back in college and, during his introductory news conference with the Browns, said he expects to exceed the accomplishments of his father.

Winslow's ego and his fiery personality have led to some bad decisions in the past.

Following a loss in his final season at the University of Miami, Winslow lashed out at officials in a profanity-laced tirade that ended with him referring to football as war and himself as a soldier. He later apologized.

He made no apologies last season for knocking a Cleveland teammate to the ground during a non-contact drill. Winslow remarked that the Browns should develop more attitude and play with greater intensity.
 
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Helpinghand said:
Learning to ride?

With his leg still on the mend, Winslow purchased a sport bike last month and was learning how to ride it in a parking lot Sunday night when he hit a curb and was thrown off. He complained of chest pains after the crash.
On Cleveland radio (WKNR) last night there were multiple reports from reliable witnesses (radio hosts words, not mine) that Kellen was at a bike show in Canton either earlier that day or the day before (I can't recall when they said). At the bike show he was seen riding his bike and doing wheelies as he was leaving. The bike show? Was of extreme stunts.

While the bike is new if he was able to ride from Canton to Cleveland he was not just learning how to ride the bike.

The entertainment value of Cleveland Sports Radio talk when everyone is talking gloom and doom.
 
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