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Joe BoLLLLden (LB Coach Nevada)

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matcar said:
So you are not a douche if you win? I don't buy that logic even a little bit.
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I think he's saying spontaneity has something to do with it too? It does to me. Charging out on the field and slapping a banner that happens to be there because you are fired up for a rivalry game = OK (note, that doesn't mean I'd like it if someone did it to us, but it's at least it is within the emotion of the moment). Planning something out to the point you are bringing a lame-assed prop = douche-cactus.
 
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I'd say it's a little more nuanced than that, but basically yes -- I call it the Richard Sherman principle.
If you've done the work to deserve it, you're allowed to talk smack.

That said, a tent spike is pretty... umm... silly. It's not half as cool as tearing down your opponent's banner (in the midst of a heated rivalry that is now equated to war), stealing your opponent's symbol by force, etc.
The key to all this stuff is that you can't walk in having had your rear end handed to you and pull crap in an attempt to become intimidating with chicanery. You already have to be an opponent they fear/respect for it to work. They've put the cart before the horse.
Moreover, a tent spike followed by laying an egg? Yea, you're going to get laughed at. :lol:
 
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matcar said:
I guess I'm fine with all of that. I guess I just don't see doing something dumb like this indicative of "character" issues.
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Don't know if it's "character" as much as it's "attitude" with the clowns up there. They have recruited countless kids over the past 3-4 years that do an abnormal amount of talking despite accomplishing next to nothing.
 
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NFBuck said:
Step 1-- Hire a pile of bloated, profusely sweating mediocrity
Step 2-- Trot him out in front of press to belch "this is m*ch*g*n fergodsakes"
Step 3-- Attract poor, misguided souls who feel all they have to do is show up and put on a uniform, acquire bracelets, and open a twitter account
Step 4-- Profit?
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Honor&Glory said:
I personally know Joe and his family. I know it's ok to bash scUM players and he has taken a lot of heat for his actions and deservedly so. But let's not forget that it's the leadership at that [Mark May] hole that inspires and grows this behavior. Joe really is a good kid and I felt compelled to stand up for him a little because I think we sometimes lose sight of the kid who should be molded by adults and leaders and Hoke and his band of idiots are failing those kids.

Don't get me wrong. I hate scUM. It's just the perspective I have knowing this kid since 8th grade. And he never once said anything negative about OSU in all that time until Hoke started directing him.
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Please clarify...are you saying that Joe (or his family) told you that Hoke actually directed him to say negative stuff about Ohio State or are you just speculating?
 
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ScriptOhio said:
Please clarify...are you saying that Joe (or his family) told you that Hoke actually directed him to say negative stuff about Ohio State or are you just speculating?
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Speculating based on the recent history of scUM recruits who get nasty (blood on the field) the day the commit up north. Plus I've known them for awhile and I have never know joe, his dad or any of his siblings to be like this. I can only hypothesize that it was something the staff up north fabricated.

By way of comparison BJ Askew or Cobrani Mixon (before he transferred ) were also from Colerain and never did anything like this.
 
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Honor&Glory said:
Speculating based on the recent history of scUM recruits who get nasty (blood on the field) the day the commit up north. Plus I've known them for awhile and I have never know joe, his dad or any of his siblings to be like this. I can only hypothesize that it was something the staff up north fabricated.

By way of comparison BJ Askew or Cobrani Mixon (before he transferred ) were also from Colerain and never did anything like this.
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I don't think it was something the staff directed, or even condoned. It sounds like this tent stake (:lol:) was used as some kind of motivational prop, and Bolden took it and ran with it, using it as some kind of token in a horribly misguided attempt to get them fired up.

The failing is that this is the type of attitude that staff fosters up there. And, if they didn't know they were gonna do it, they are just clueless buffoons who are letting the inmates run the asylum.

The next coach up there is going to have talent in many areas to work with. But it's talent that is spoiled by a misplaced sense of entitlement and self-worth. The hard part will be actually getting that talent to work towards earning respect, as opposed to thinking they are owed it just by putting on a uniform of a program that hasn't been nationally relevant for the better part of a quarter century.
 
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TS10HTW said:
Maybe a more appropriate move is just waiting until AFTER you actually win the game to pull a stunt like this. That way you save yourself and everyone else around you the embarrassment.
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I prefer to just show up, win and leave. Like you expected to win, like you have been there before...but I'm old school.

My constitution toward swag is weak.
 
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