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Jim Tressel (National Champion, ex-President, Youngstown State University, CFB HOF)

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So, after yesterday Jim Tressel has:

  • 6 Big Ten Championships in 9 years (7 in 10 when the Bucks beat scUM Saturday)
  • 1 National Championship
  • 7 BCS bowl appearances with 4 wins
  • Is 8-1 against Michigan
  • Is 5-1 against Kirk Ferentz
  • 8 seasons with 10+ wins
  • 7 National Coach of the Year awards (6 from 2002, 1 from 2006)
  • ZERO Big Ten Coach of the Year awards

Kirk Ferentz has:

  • 2 Big Ten Championships in 12 years
  • Zero National Championships
  • 2 BCS bowl appearances with 1 win
  • 1-7 against Ohio State (1-5 vs. Tressel, 0-2 vs. Cooper)
  • 4 seasons with 10+ wins (no chance this year to reach 10 wins)
  • 1 National Coach of the Year award (2002)
  • 3 Big Ten Coach of the Year awards

It's amazing that he didn't win the Big Ten COY award last year after tying the Big Ten Championship streak record (and may very well break it this weekend)... but we all knew Tressel's coaching abilities and results get short-changed by the media (who chooses the award recipient).

Ferentz is a good coach and is good for the Big Ten and he typically does the right things (i.e. sitting Robinson out for a quarter yesterday to send a message about his academics). But his on-field results are not even close to what Tressel has accomplished, a fact that seems to be lost on the Big Ten media.

Go win Big Ten title #7 Tressel.... beat M*ch*g*n!


Side note: An Ohio State coach has not won the Big Ten COY award since Earl Bruce did in 1979... over 30 years ago. I was surprised to see Cooper didn't win it at all, especially after that great 1998 team.
 
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bkochmc;1817168; said:
So, after yesterday Jim Tressel has:

  • 6 Big Ten Championships in 9 years (7 in 10 when the Bucks beat scUM Saturday)
  • 1 National Championship
  • 7 BCS bowl appearances with 4 wins
  • Is 8-1 against Michigan
  • Is 5-1 against Kirk Ferentz
  • 8 seasons with 10+ wins
  • 7 National Coach of the Year awards (6 from 2002, 1 from 2006)
  • ZERO Big Ten Coach of the Year awards

Kirk Ferentz has:

  • 2 Big Ten Championships in 12 years
  • Zero National Championships
  • 2 BCS bowl appearances with 1 win
  • 1-7 against Ohio State (1-5 vs. Tressel, 0-2 vs. Cooper)
  • 4 seasons with 10+ wins (no chance this year to reach 10 wins)
  • 1 National Coach of the Year award (2002)
  • 3 Big Ten Coach of the Year awards

It's amazing that he didn't win the Big Ten COY award last year after tying the Big Ten Championship streak record (and may very well break it this weekend)... but we all knew Tressel's coaching abilities and results get short-changed by the media (who chooses the award recipient).

Ferentz is a good coach and is good for the Big Ten and he typically does the right things (i.e. sitting Robinson out for a quarter yesterday to send a message about his academics). But his on-field results are not even close to what Tressel has accomplished, a fact that seems to be lost on the Big Ten media.

Go win Big Ten title #7 Tressel.... beat M*ch*g*n!


Side note: An Ohio State coach has not won the Big Ten COY award since Earl Bruce did in 1979... over 30 years ago. I was surprised to see Cooper didn't win it at all, especially after that great 1998 team.
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I believe the biggest issue with Tressel is that the media assumed for him to do well, due to having great talents on his teams. Big 10 CotY awards seem to go to the ones who exceeded expectations.

It's hard for Tressel to exceed the media's expectations, which is to win a national title again.
 
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Silent Nature;1817189; said:
I believe the biggest issue with Tressel is that the media assumed for him to do well, due to having great talents on his teams. Big 10 CotY awards seem to go to the ones who exceeded expectations.
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Yep, and that's unfair since part of coaching is recruiting the guys to get on campus. Tressel and his crew have done that far better than any other program in the Big Ten for the past 10 years.
 
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There's no doubt it's easier to recruit at Ohio State than it is at Iowa. But giving Ferentz the award because he "does more with less" is saying that they don't think Tressel could do the same (or a better) job. Just because he doesn't have to doesn't mean he can't.

If Bielema wins it this year somebody should be shot.
 
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I went to the mgoblog link to read the alleged halftime speech that Coach Tressel gave last Saturday. I decided to see what the enemy thought of the speech and came across this anecdote from a tsun fan with over 3000 posts.

I met Tressel after he got the gig in Columbus but before his first game at OSU. Lloyd was speaking here in Cleveland at a high school football awards banquet and Tressel and his now late mother attended. My then 15 year old son went with me and we sat a table filled with Northern Ohio Wolverines for the speech. After Lloyd finished they started showing a highlight video of the high school kids so my son and I snuck out as it was getting late. We did so at the same time Tressel and his mom were leaving and my son and Mrs. Tressel both had to use the bathroom at the same time so Jim and I were standing there, me wearing my Michigan polo and the soon to be new coach of OSU. I said "congrats coach, I hope you go 12-1 every year." He said "me too, but I don't want to lose the one you want me to lose." Then we proceeded to talk football for about 15 minutes and he was one of the nicest and friendliest persons I've ever met. He invited my too skinny son to come to Columbus and gave me his cell phone number and said I should call him if i'm ever down his way and want a tour of the stadium. In short he was VERY nice to someone he didn't need to be nice to and I thought immediately "ut oh.....we're in trouble if this guy can coach at all."

Unfortunately for us he can coach and well as recruit. Extremely well.

http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/ot-sweatervest-speech-halftime-last-saturday
 
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Reposted with permission from Marksgforce on BN:

?I knew that JT would lose a game ?.?

Board participants seem top think this proves a point they were trying to make about a deficiency in JT or the players at OSU. The statement seems to imply that if JT had done or employed a different offense, defense, or personnel package (fill in the blank with your own critique) we would have gone undefeated.

The alternative to losing a game is going undefeated, which I guess would prove the coach did everything right. How often does that happen?

Here?s a little look at going undefeated ? I?ve mixed in different eras ? but pay particular attention to the era of expanded schedules that includes bowl pairings that come closer to seeding teams and making them play an equal or better team.

For example, in the BCS era, there is an undefeated ?contending? team just a little more than half the time (7 times in 12 seasons).

THE COACHES / PROGRAMS

Bobby Bowden ? did it 1 time ?. Despite being and independent at FSU for 16 years and then being the beast of a so-so conference prior to Miami joining. Great bowl wins. Great seasons. But only 1 undefeated team in 38 seasons ? including his years at Howard (now Samford).

Urban Meyer ? 1 time in 10 seasons, that one while at Utah. (He?s now lost 3 or more games in half his seasons as head coach.) He does coach in the perennial toughest conference in CFB.

Woody Hayes did it better than almost anyone ? did it twice at Denison and then a whopping 4 times at OSU ? though twice he had ties ? and he never won more than 10 games in an unblemished season ?. 2 10-0 campaigns.

Bo Shembechler ? 1 time in 27 seasons but he only won 10 games and that campaign included a tie.

Bear Bryant ? 4 times in 38 seasons ? 3 perfect seasons at Alabama in 25 years (11-0, 11-0, 12-0) ? his undefeated season at Texas A&M was a 9-0-1 campaign. He did lose 7 consecutive bowl games, which led to integration in the SEC. If his conscience had come around sooner he might have had more.

Nick Saban ? 1 time in 15 years of college football ? he tied Tressell with 14 wins at the highest level that season. Along with Tennessee's undefeated season, maybe the toughest road to perfection.

Jimmy Johnson ?. 1 time in 10 years of college football ?.

Tom Osborne ? 3 times in 25 seasons ? they all occurred in his last 4 years as head coach - the most impressive run in my years as a college football fan.

Steve Spurrier ? 0 times in 21 seasons.

Pete Carroll ? 1 time in 9 seasons, in an era when the PAC-10 was arguably ?down? and his talent was "up".

Joe Paterno ? 4 times in 40 seasons. 3 when Penn State was independent and beating up on the likes of Temple and Rutgers and Army and Navy and 1 time in his 18 seasons in the Big Ten. Twice won 11 and twice won 12 to go undefeated.

John McKay ? 3 times in 16 seasons at USC ? 1 of those times they had a tie (10-0-1) and he never won more than 12 games.

Bud Wilkinson ? 4 times in 17 seasons ? 10-0 twice and 11-0 twice. In the longest winning streak in CFB history he had 3 undefeated seasons in a row. He pulled the Tom Osborne before Tom was a coach.

Lou Holtz ? 1 time in 33 seasons.

Darrel Royal ? 2 times in 23 seasons ? both 11-0 campaigns.

Barry Switzer ? 2 times in his 16 seasons at Oklahoma ? but never with his ?own players? ? the 2 undefeated seasons were his first 2 years ? 10-0-1 and 11-0.

Jim Tressel ? 2 times in 25 seasons. Never without a tie at YSU (14-0-1) though he won at least 12 games 5 of 15 years. First coach and only 1 of 2 to go 14-0 at the D-I highest level.


Are some of the accomplishments above tougher and greater? No doubt. It?s tougher to win the pennant if you are in the same division as the Yankees and some conferences are tougher year in and out ? i.e. the SEC. But what?s not debatable is how hard it is to go undefeated; whether the conference is brutal or ?down? or middling. Woody coached in the era of the Big 2 and Little 8 - though he made it that way! It doesn?t seem to happen as much or as easily as some seem to imply it should, particularly in relation to our Buckeyes.

A macro look at the world of college football and something to think about.
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