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k2onprimetime;1542605; said:
I can't quite put my finger on it, but this post rubs me the wrong way. :ick:
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I can't quite put my finger on it, but this post rubs me the wrong way. :ick:
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That's a pain in the buns
It's early in the year, people shouldn't be worried. A. THIS YEAR WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE "OUR" YEAR. B. Tressel knows what he is doing, just have faith people sheesh. C. Yes although I may not agree with some of the calls he makes, he's still the right guy for this team. End of story.
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I know that a lot of people are going toDr. Saturday said:
me, but Taylor Mays is the clear weakness of USC's defense. Yes, he is a great athlete, but in looking for the big hit, he constantly freelances and overcommits on plays and often ends up out of position (see last year's Rose Bowl, when Penn State abused him over the middle the entire second half of the game). Of course, he can sometimes make up for his mistakes with his great speed, but I am sure that the Buckeye coaching staff drew up plays with the idea that Mays would make "egregious errors" if given the opportunity to do so. The fake bubble screen was a perfectly desiged and executed play to take advantage of Mays' negative tendencies - in other words, Ohio State forced Mays into an "egregious error" that they knew that he would make in that situation.I only wish that we would have seen the Buckeyes challenge Mays a few more times after the first quarter.
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So, are you saying that you agree with the author's opening statement?lvbuckeye;1542758; said:
Dr. Saturday said:
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lvbuckeye
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not with that verbiage, because that would get me a two week vacation. :P
but the bare naked facts are that Tresselball got us inches away from eking out a win. any semblance of offensive continuity would have netted a double digit win, and maybe a blowout.
personally, i'd rather have an offense that doesn't run Dave 250 times a year and say that "we were good when we ran Dave 250 times a year" despite the fact that most of the wins were against undermanned teams and IN SPITE of the fact that we ran Dave 250 times a year.
and i don't necessarily agree 100% with everything he broke down. BUT the lack of pre-snap checks to get the ball to uncovered receivers resonated quite loudly with me.
to whit:
i remember the Bucks lining up in power-I the entire second half against Illinois in '06. the Illini had 10 guys in the box and the lone corner was looking in. of course Tressel called Dave. of course Illinois effectively stopped it. and i remember wondering why NOT ONCE did Troy check off and throw the ball to Teddy who had 1 guy to beat for 6... must have been there on like 20 plays. Tressel never has done it, and most likely never will. and if i was able to see that from my couch in '06, then anyone else can see it too, especially opposing coaches.
but the bare naked facts are that Tresselball got us inches away from eking out a win. any semblance of offensive continuity would have netted a double digit win, and maybe a blowout.
personally, i'd rather have an offense that doesn't run Dave 250 times a year and say that "we were good when we ran Dave 250 times a year" despite the fact that most of the wins were against undermanned teams and IN SPITE of the fact that we ran Dave 250 times a year.
and i don't necessarily agree 100% with everything he broke down. BUT the lack of pre-snap checks to get the ball to uncovered receivers resonated quite loudly with me.
to whit:
i remember the Bucks lining up in power-I the entire second half against Illinois in '06. the Illini had 10 guys in the box and the lone corner was looking in. of course Tressel called Dave. of course Illinois effectively stopped it. and i remember wondering why NOT ONCE did Troy check off and throw the ball to Teddy who had 1 guy to beat for 6... must have been there on like 20 plays. Tressel never has done it, and most likely never will. and if i was able to see that from my couch in '06, then anyone else can see it too, especially opposing coaches.
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LordJeffBuck;1542760; said:
Didn't Pete Carroll make a statement that he knew what Ohio State was going to do on offense? How is that not being out coached? Isn't that the same thing we heard after the Florida game?
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Yeah, and any offensive continuity from USC would have netted them a blow out as well. But Tressel was the one who was out-coached ... okay. Southern Cal didn't do anything with the ball for the first 53 minutes of the game and then scored the go-ahead touchdown (for a grand total of 18 points) with about a minute left ... yep, I see your point now.lvbuckeye;1542767; said:
So, you're one of those fans who not only bitch about losses, but also bitches about ugly wins, eh? Personally, I'd rather just win games. And if my team loses once in a while to an excellent team, well, I guess that I can understand and accept that.lvbuckeye;1542767; said:
And Pryor's failure to make pre-snap reads is JT's fault...? Okay.lvbuckeye;1542767; said:
Okay, so you're going back three years to dig up evidence in support of your claims ... back when Pryor was a junior in high school? Refresh my memory - who won that OSU-Illinois game back in 2006?lvbuckeye;1542767; said:
By the way, if you can see so much from your couch, then why are you on your couch?
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lvbuckeye;1542748; said:
I agree. If we would have went for it on fourth, it would have been the same running play. Show show some imagination. Try a Boise State spread the line formation and have our QB improvise.
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lvbuckeye
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LordJeffBuck;1542772; said:Yeah, and any offensive continuity from USC would have netted them a blow out as well. But Tressel was the one who was out-coached ... okay. Southern Cal didn't do anything with the ball for the first 53 minutes of the game and then scored the go-ahead touchdown (for a grand total of 18 points) with about a minute left ... yep, I see your point now.
you can be satisfied with an offense that consistently averages in the lower half of football. i am not. personally in this game, i think Tressel outcoached himself. Pete knew he was in trouble, it was written all over his face. but Tressel let him off the hook.
actually, i'm pretty much to the point where i am numb to it. i KNOW the O will generally struggle, and a KNOW that the D will generally be very good, and i KNOW that ST will be very, very good. i'm done bitching... doesn't mean that i still don't puke occasionally.
absofuckinglutely.
and you are completely ignoring the point. there are times when the opposing team gives us yards on a silver platter and we don't take them. we just run Dave because, hell, we're usually pretty good when we run it all the time (neverminding the fact that we also out-talent our opponents about 85% of the time.)
because i can't afford to fly home every Saturday to go to the 'Shoe.
look, i'm all ears. you seem to know more about football strategy then i do, so tell me why we NEVER just take the snap and throw it out to whatever receiver is out there with a 10 yard cushion and 9 guys in the box? this isn't a TP question, or a Troy question. it's an 8+ seasons of play question. if it's there, why don't we take it? and if it's not there, then i want to know why.
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LordJeffBuck;1542772; said:
I would put that part on the QB coach and part on TP. Mostly on TP. You would think our coaches have went over pre-snap reads. They might be spending too much time on TP foot work and throwing technique that they skipped the pre-snap reads lesson. I would not put that on JT at all.
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