Jim Bollman (Stay calm and run Dave)

[Woody1968]

I just don't understand why when the universal wisdom when you have an inexperienced or limited QB is to make the game as easy as possible for him by having him make easy throws to tight ends, backs etc

and our inexperienced, limited QBs throw a steady diet of deep outs lol

If it's intercepted on a deep out, it's like a punt.

 

[Woody1968]

Our decades of winning are based on superior talent to be able to dominate the rest of the conference. There are years in there that it has not been the philosophy. I'm not arguing for 80% pass 20% run. I'd argue that right now the best balance of our offense is 70-60% run and 30-40% pass, but to abandon the pass at points in games is idiotic. Our running game would be even more dominant with a passing game to go along with it. I just want our offense to play to its potential and not play down to its opponent.

If they can't stop the run, why throw a pass? You have to run to keep the clock working in your favor.

Look at the Nebraska debacle. Plenty of passes late in the game there. If we ran every down instead, and still went three and out, it would have forced Nebraska to abandon the run and would have helped our defense out.

 

[Muck]

If they can't stop the run, why throw a pass?

While I generally agree with you...At some point you have to give your QB an opportunity to develop and a steady diet of hand offs isn't going to help with that.

 

[lvbuckeye]

credit where credit is due. Bollman's gameplan was pretty good.

UNLV had some success from the Pistol against Wisky. don't think that pistol we saw was an accident.

that speed option call on Braxton's 44 yard TD was a GREAT call.
not only did it break the counter tendency, it also broke another long-standing tendency: our option plays are nearly always run to the right.

 

[dav713]

While I generally agree with you...At some point you have to give your QB an opportunity to develop and a steady diet of hand offs isn't going to help with that.

And the best way to do that is to have your young QB getting the majority of preseason snaps and letting him gain confidence against the early season cupcakes. Clearly hindsight is 20-20, but Braxton really could have benefited from all of those reps. If Braxton's confidence could have been developed earlier in the year, me thinks the MSU game would have turned out differently.

 

[Woody1968]

While I generally agree with you...At some point you have to give your QB an opportunity to develop and a steady diet of hand offs isn't going to help with that.

I'm limiting my response to the question about why we went away from the pass against Wisconsin. Against Indiana this week? Let it rip....

 

[strohs]

credit where credit is due. Bollman's gameplan was pretty good.

UNLV had some success from the Pistol against Wisky. don't think that pistol we saw was an accident.

that speed option call on Braxton's 44 yard TD was a GREAT call.
not only did it break the counter tendency, it also broke another long-standing tendency: our option plays are nearly always run to the right.

One or two good play calls does not a solid gameplan make.
I especially loved continually running into a 8-9 man box. And why bother running a screen play once in a while, it would be a waste of a down.

 

[Woody1968]

One or two good play calls does not a solid gameplan make.
I especially loved continually running into a 8-9 man box. And why bother running a screen play once in a while, it would be a waste of a down.

We got over 260 yards on the ground running into a 8-9 man box.

I don't see why you would throw a screen pass, when Wisconsin didn't have an effective pass rush, and seemed content to try to contain the pocket to prevent Braxton from running. If you are going to throw a screen, the ideal situation is an overzealous pass rush. The screen is generally used to keep the defense from using an all out blitz, not when they are sitting on the line of scrimmage and more likely to get a hand up and block a short pass. Screen passes don't help open up the run or force the defense to stop loading the box.

 

[Buckeye86]

Even if we give Bollman credit for coming up with a good game plan against the Badgers (which I am perfectly willing to do) the fact remains that it took entirely too long to get to this point.

I am hopeful that this team has found its identity and will be able to get rolling on offense in the final weeks of the season and into the post season (Indiana is the perfect team to start with), but even if that happens, that in no way excuses Jim Bollman for taking over half a year to figure out how to run his offense.

Once again, I pray that this team and Bollman have found their groove, but he still ABSOLUTELY needs to be gone at the end of the season or we will go through the same bumbling search for an offense at the beginning of next year.

 

[strohs]

We got over 260 yards on the ground running into a 8-9 man box.

I don't see why you would throw a screen pass, when Wisconsin didn't have an effective pass rush, and seemed content to try to contain the pocket to prevent Braxton from running. If you are going to throw a screen, the ideal situation is an overzealous pass rush. The screen is generally used to keep the defense from using an all out blitz, not when they are sitting on the line of scrimmage and more likely to get a hand up and block a short pass. Screen passes don't help open up the run or force the defense to stop loading the box.

Yeah, and 101 of those yards came on TWO plays. Again, one or two great plays does not an effective gameplan make.

 

[Best Buckeye]

Yeah, and 101 of those yards came on TWO plays. Again, one or two great plays does not an effective gameplan make.

Maybe not but 150 yards over and above the two plays just might make an effective ground game. It was good enough to win...

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Yeah, and 101 of those yards came on TWO plays. Again, one or two great plays does not an effective gameplan make.

Not only that, but in the first two drives of the second half, we had a first and goal from the one (the last part of the opening drive of the half, and after the blocked punt). The first time it took us four runs to score the TD (Boom ran it three times into the pile for -1, 1, and 0 yards respectively before Miller scored on the bootleg). After the blocked punt, it took three runs to score from the one (Hall ran into the pile twice for -1 and 0 yards before sweeping left for the score). Seven fucking runs for 2 yards, and the five runs that went into the pile had a net result of -1 yard, and the two runs that avoided the pile scored.

 

[Mike80]

Yeah, and 101 of those yards came on TWO plays. Again, one or two great plays does not an effective gameplan make.

36 minutes of TOP, no offensive turnovers and outgaining Wisconsin says it was an effective gameplan.

 

[strohs]

36 minutes of TOP, no offensive turnovers and outgaining Wisconsin says it was an effective gameplan.

How many runs did we have for 0 or negative yardage? Especially on first down??? Mili's post above illustrates the struggles we had on just two possessions, and those struggles were not relegated to only those two drives.
I cant understand how anyone could watch that game and honestly think that the offense was prepared for success. That was the epitome of underachievement...

 

[OSU_Buckguy]

what i saw saturday was not a better-than-adequate gameplan. what i saw was excellent execution of an uncreative gameplan.

until i see a naked bootleg against a blitzing team, i'll continue thinking that bollman has little understanding of how to exploit the defenses' tendencies. yes, that is a simplistic way of critiquing our offensive coordinator, but i think that any decent tactician would have employed this play at least once already... especially against msu. you throw just one naked bootleg at the spartans and they no longer send the house each play.