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Jake Diebler (Head Coach)

I also supported hiring him and I did not expect this year to be much of anything after Meechie and Okpara were out of the equation. What would concern me is if his team quit on him in the B1g tourney. I haven't seen the game.
That’s an interesting question. They lost a number of games down the stretch. Did the team quit or did they just not have the horses.

I think more disappointing is they seemed like they were the same team as last year and no real improvement was made. No offensive identity, lack of rebounding, lose close games.

On top of that they got shellacked in a few games where I would say they did quit on him.
 
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I also supported hiring him and I did not expect this year to be much of anything after Meechie and Okpara were out of the equation. What would concern me is if his team quit on him in the B1g tourney. I haven't seen the game.

I don't think the team ever "quit" on him in a traditional sense, but all of the late game mental errors late in the season and IMO a relative lack of urgency at too many times is a reflection of the coach. Some of his rotations towards the end were very questionable as well, especially against Iowa. Like why are your 2 worst offensive players (Glover & Mahaffey) on the floor for crucial offensive possessions? Seems like the guy is just in over his head for big time college hoops.
 
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The Toxic Trap Sinking Ohio State Basketball​

Ohio State basketball is spiraling into chaos, caught between a toxic reputation and a roster on the brink of collapse. The current Athletic Director is left cleaning up a mess years in the making, with no easy way out.

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There may not be a worse place for a basketball program to be right now than Ohio State. The Buckeyes men’s basketball program is caught in the midst of bad decision-making, a toxic reputation, and a roster that is hanging in the balance of a few players.

The current Athletic Director (AD), Ross Bjork, is reaping what the previous AD, Gene Smith, sown. Jake Diebler is a first-year head coach in college basketball, and it shows. Personally, Diebler is great. He seems like a stand-up guy, a good father, and one who deeply cares about the program and his players. But he is at the center of trying to rebound from one of the worst situations in Ohio State basketball history.

The downward spiral began when the previous AD extended Chris Holtmann in the summer of 2022. Less than two years later, Holtmann would go 30-30 and be fired by Smith months before retirement. In Holtmann’s place, it was announced that the incoming AD Ross Bjork promoted Diebler to be the head coach after being an assistant from Holtmann’s staff who finished the regular season 5-1 with wins over two of the best coaches in the conference in Matt Painter and Tom Izzo.

It seemed like a feel-good story then—the young coach from Ohio stepping up to breathe life into a troubled program. But this season, that optimism has evaporated, replaced by a grim reality: Diebler’s tenure is shaping up to be a cautionary tale.

From the beginning of the offseason, Diebler’s actions raised eyebrows. He went into the portal to find unproven players with high recruiting rankings but little to show for it on the court. Although he brought back former player Meechie Johnson, he also had current players who helped him end the season well: Felix Okpara, Roddy Gayle Jr., and Scotty Middleton.

From the outside looking in, the strategy seemed flawed. Instead of building off the team, he had to assemble a roster that fit, and he chased unproven talent through the transfer portal. His top three targets turned out to be major disappointments, leaving him with freshmen who were thrust into roles way too early and players having to play out of position. The players who got him the job in the first place? He seemed to let them walk away so he could bring in guys with more national buzz.

Even through all of that, Diebler’s roster had enough juice to hover around the NCAA Tournament bubble. Led by Bruce Thornton, Devin Royal, Micah Parrish, and Evan Mahaffey, the team formed a core that, on paper, should keep Ohio State competitive in the Big Ten.

But here’s the rub: Parrish will be gone as he is out of eligibility, but if Diebler can’t hold onto the other three, the Buckeyes could plummet to the basement of the conference next season. Those three have given everything this year, only to be let down by teammates and coaching. And in the world of NIL and the transfer portal, fans can’t blame them if they decide to look around and weigh their options of where they should play next year.

The biggest problem, though, is that Ohio State can’t move on from Diebler, even if they wanted to. Diebler most likely has a future in coaching, but this program was simply not right for a first-year head coach, and it’s too unstable for a coach who is still learning and growing at the needed rate. The program’s reputation locally and nationally is anything but positive.

Locally, the fans are not pleased and haven’t been pleased for years. This helps create the national reputation that Ohio State is a pressure cooker atmosphere that few coaches will want to try and endure. Also, the home-court advantage at Value City Arena is nearly nonexistent.

The arena is too big, too far from the students, and was built more for concerts than it was for basketball. Among many, it is known as one of the weakest home-court advantages in high-major college basketball. And finally, firing a first-time head coach after one season—especially one who isn’t outright tanking—would only further increase the thought that Ohio State is a volatile, coach-killing gig.

No one worth hiring would touch it. Especially not when the team finishes as a bubble team following year one, and you could get let go at a program that has only made the tournament four times in the past nine tournaments.

In addition to all of that, the Buckeyes play tight and unconnected basketball, with only a few players showing trust in one another. The ball doesn’t move on offense, and the best players on the team are forced to have the weight of the team on their shoulders night in and night out.

Fans’ displeasure is loud, and the team hears it. But what might be even worse is that they don’t seem to disagree with it. It’s a vicious cycle: a fractured roster feeding into a toxic atmosphere, which in turn deepens the fractures.

The mess of Ohio State basketball is far more than just hiring too young of a coach. The current AD is left with upset fans, a coach floundering with roster construction, and trying to build up what was being torn down for years. The team isn’t bad enough in year one to justify a complete reset, but it’s bad enough to widen the rift between the program and fans when the program needs fan support more than ever.

No matter what happens the rest of the year, Diebler must find a way to keep Thornton, Royal, and Mobley on this team. They’re the core of the team and the difference between a salvageable season and a full-on collapse. Lose them, and Ohio State basketball could be near rock bottom in the Big Ten. The good news is that Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) exists, and The Foundation is one of the best NIL collectives in college athletics.
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Damn Gene Smith. We all watched as he simply didn’t give a flying F about basketball success. The truth is Gene allowed the ankle biting media to run Tressel and Meyer off without a whimper. I’m assuming he had little to do with landing Meyer….Meyer fell into his lap. Then the galactically idiotic 2012 give-away season.

The more I think of Gene Smith the more I am thankful he is no longer running the program.
 
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The Toxic Trap Sinking Ohio State Basketball​

Ohio State basketball is spiraling into chaos, caught between a toxic reputation and a roster on the brink of collapse. The current Athletic Director is left cleaning up a mess years in the making, with no easy way out.

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There may not be a worse place for a basketball program to be right now than Ohio State. The Buckeyes men’s basketball program is caught in the midst of bad decision-making, a toxic reputation, and a roster that is hanging in the balance of a few players.

The current Athletic Director (AD), Ross Bjork, is reaping what the previous AD, Gene Smith, sown. Jake Diebler is a first-year head coach in college basketball, and it shows. Personally, Diebler is great. He seems like a stand-up guy, a good father, and one who deeply cares about the program and his players. But he is at the center of trying to rebound from one of the worst situations in Ohio State basketball history.

The downward spiral began when the previous AD extended Chris Holtmann in the summer of 2022. Less than two years later, Holtmann would go 30-30 and be fired by Smith months before retirement. In Holtmann’s place, it was announced that the incoming AD Ross Bjork promoted Diebler to be the head coach after being an assistant from Holtmann’s staff who finished the regular season 5-1 with wins over two of the best coaches in the conference in Matt Painter and Tom Izzo.

It seemed like a feel-good story then—the young coach from Ohio stepping up to breathe life into a troubled program. But this season, that optimism has evaporated, replaced by a grim reality: Diebler’s tenure is shaping up to be a cautionary tale.

From the beginning of the offseason, Diebler’s actions raised eyebrows. He went into the portal to find unproven players with high recruiting rankings but little to show for it on the court. Although he brought back former player Meechie Johnson, he also had current players who helped him end the season well: Felix Okpara, Roddy Gayle Jr., and Scotty Middleton.

From the outside looking in, the strategy seemed flawed. Instead of building off the team, he had to assemble a roster that fit, and he chased unproven talent through the transfer portal. His top three targets turned out to be major disappointments, leaving him with freshmen who were thrust into roles way too early and players having to play out of position. The players who got him the job in the first place? He seemed to let them walk away so he could bring in guys with more national buzz.

Even through all of that, Diebler’s roster had enough juice to hover around the NCAA Tournament bubble. Led by Bruce Thornton, Devin Royal, Micah Parrish, and Evan Mahaffey, the team formed a core that, on paper, should keep Ohio State competitive in the Big Ten.

But here’s the rub: Parrish will be gone as he is out of eligibility, but if Diebler can’t hold onto the other three, the Buckeyes could plummet to the basement of the conference next season. Those three have given everything this year, only to be let down by teammates and coaching. And in the world of NIL and the transfer portal, fans can’t blame them if they decide to look around and weigh their options of where they should play next year.

The biggest problem, though, is that Ohio State can’t move on from Diebler, even if they wanted to. Diebler most likely has a future in coaching, but this program was simply not right for a first-year head coach, and it’s too unstable for a coach who is still learning and growing at the needed rate. The program’s reputation locally and nationally is anything but positive.

Locally, the fans are not pleased and haven’t been pleased for years. This helps create the national reputation that Ohio State is a pressure cooker atmosphere that few coaches will want to try and endure. Also, the home-court advantage at Value City Arena is nearly nonexistent.

The arena is too big, too far from the students, and was built more for concerts than it was for basketball. Among many, it is known as one of the weakest home-court advantages in high-major college basketball. And finally, firing a first-time head coach after one season—especially one who isn’t outright tanking—would only further increase the thought that Ohio State is a volatile, coach-killing gig.

No one worth hiring would touch it. Especially not when the team finishes as a bubble team following year one, and you could get let go at a program that has only made the tournament four times in the past nine tournaments.

In addition to all of that, the Buckeyes play tight and unconnected basketball, with only a few players showing trust in one another. The ball doesn’t move on offense, and the best players on the team are forced to have the weight of the team on their shoulders night in and night out.

Fans’ displeasure is loud, and the team hears it. But what might be even worse is that they don’t seem to disagree with it. It’s a vicious cycle: a fractured roster feeding into a toxic atmosphere, which in turn deepens the fractures.

The mess of Ohio State basketball is far more than just hiring too young of a coach. The current AD is left with upset fans, a coach floundering with roster construction, and trying to build up what was being torn down for years. The team isn’t bad enough in year one to justify a complete reset, but it’s bad enough to widen the rift between the program and fans when the program needs fan support more than ever.

No matter what happens the rest of the year, Diebler must find a way to keep Thornton, Royal, and Mobley on this team. They’re the core of the team and the difference between a salvageable season and a full-on collapse. Lose them, and Ohio State basketball could be near rock bottom in the Big Ten. The good news is that Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) exists, and The Foundation is one of the best NIL collectives in college athletics.
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Everyone is replaceable. Everyone. That being said, doing it right is the tough part. You actually have to know what you're doing. There are enough resources at OSU that they should be able to field a team that finishes in the upper half of the B1G on a regular basis. I don't agree with the idea that Diebler isn't a good fit for the program. He makes sense, he's just got to get the right blend of talent.
 
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That’s an interesting question. They lost a number of games down the stretch. Did the team quit or did they just not have the horses.

I think more disappointing is they seemed like they were the same team as last year and no real improvement was made. No offensive identity, lack of rebounding, lose close games.

On top of that they got shellacked in a few games where I would say they did quit on him.
The loss to NW game would be the one I would refer to specifically on that category. There has to be a ton of improvement next season or he's out. Problem is that we don't have a ton of talent returning and the incoming recruiting class is thin on numbers, so I just don't see it happening unless we kill it in the portal. Even if we return the entire team, we return a a team that was barely above .500. Bottom line is that I don't see this working out absent a miracle next season.
 
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The loss to NW game would be the one I would refer to specifically on that category. There has to be a ton of improvement next season or he's out. Problem is that we don't have a ton of talent returning and the incoming recruiting class is thin on numbers, so I just don't see it happening unless we kill it in the portal. Even if we return the entire team, we return a a team that was barely above .500. Bottom line is that I don't see this working out absent a miracle next season.

Yea I expect it to get worse before it gets better. There's ZERO enthusiasm about the program and no doubt that's gonna trickle down to players. good luck getting any good players from the portal to jump on to a stale sinking ship.

This all starts up top with the AD. Him coming out and happily saying that Diebler "met expectations" with a 10th place B1G finish, 1st round B1G tournament out to the 15 seed and a NIT birth shows how the hoops program is viewed, they don't care. And then they wonder why a lot of fans don't care and the atmosphere for home games stinks.
 
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Everyone is replaceable. Everyone. That being said, doing it right is the tough part. You actually have to know what you're doing. There are enough resources at OSU that they should be able to field a team that finishes in the upper half of the B1G on a regular basis. I don't agree with the idea that Diebler isn't a good fit for the program. He makes sense, he's just got to get the right blend of talent.

It's gonna be hard for anyone to convince me and the others who think the same that hiring a assistant of the failed coach they just fired, without even looking at anyone else at all was the "right move". I know there is no assurance that anyone else woulda worked out any better, but the lack of trying just shows the lack of care by the Athletic Department for anything outside of the football program. There's no excuse for a program with our resources being stuck in a long stretch of NIT or worse level basketball in this day and age.
 
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It's gonna be hard for anyone to convince me and the others who think the same that hiring a assistant of the failed coach they just fired, without even looking at anyone else at all was the "right move". I know there is no assurance that anyone else woulda worked out any better, but the lack of trying just shows the lack of care by the Athletic Department for anything outside of the football program. There's no excuse for a program with our resources being stuck in a long stretch of NIT or worse level basketball in this day and age.
Bjork had a LOT of pressure from former players to hire Diebler.

Not saying that is an excuse but when you're new on the job and have that many prominent alumni stumping for Diebler, it's a tough call.
 
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Bjork had a LOT of pressure from former players to hire Diebler.

Not saying that is an excuse but when you're new on the job and have that many prominent alumni stumping for Diebler, it's a tough call.

I'd say it's still an excuse. Bjork is the one in charge, not former players, if we are going to have a lame duck AD with no balls to make choices of his own then we are stuck in this position for a long time.
 
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This situation feels almost too big for Diebler. He may be a players coach, but his name doesn’t carry weight or wins - yet. It’s like Fickell taking the interim job after Tress. Players loved him, talented assistant, would go on to become a good HC, but the issues were too big for him at the time. We needed a Meyer, a big name that can bring recruits and fulfill promises of big results at a brand like Ohio State.

Would love to see Diebs stay on with mentorship from a bigger name as HC.
 
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This situation fells too big for Diebler. He may be a players coach, but his name doesn’t carry weight or wins - yet. It’s like Fickell taking the interim job after Tress. Players loved him, talented, would go on to become a good HC, but the issues were too big for him. We needed a Meyer, a big name that can bring recruits and fulfill promises of big results at a big brand like Ohio State.

Would love to see Diebs stay on with mentorship from a bigger name as HC.

It does seem like he's in over his head. Even his on court coaching was not good at times, like having the 2 worst offensive players both on the floor at crucial points of the Iowa game when we needed to score. Wtf are you thinking?

I don't think we are getting a big name like a basketball version of Meyer. But we could at least try to bring in a up and comer who brings a lot more excitement and buzz than a assistant of the failed coach we just fired. You don't get the program out of a stale state by just promoting a continuation of the last failed guy.
 
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